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Old 7th June 2007, 08:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What sections are above street level?

 
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Old 8th June 2007, 01:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:57:55 -0000, "davidmetzger0@"
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>What sections are above street level?


Most of it.

From memory:

Bakerloo north of Queen's Park
Central west of White City and east of Stratford
Circle - none
District west of Earl's Court and east of Bow Road
East London south of Surrey Quays and around Whitechapel
Hammersmith & City west of Paddington and east of Bow Road
Jubilee north of Finchley Road and east of Canning Town
Metropolitan north-west of Finchley Road
Northern north of Golders Green, north of East Finchley and around
Morden
Piccadilly west of Baron's Court and north-east of (???)
Victoria - none
Waterloo & City - none.


Corrections from the group very welcome, of course. Thanks to David
for teaching me what "El" means... :-)
 
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Old 8th June 2007, 03:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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On Jun 8, 6:23 am, James Farrar <james.s.far...@> wrote:
> Piccadilly west of Baron's Court and north-east of (???)


Piccadilly north-east of Arnos Grove (except for a tunnel at
Southgate).


> Corrections from the group very welcome, of course. Thanks to David
> for teaching me what "El" means... :-)


Well, what DOES it mean?

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Old 8th June 2007, 03:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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On Jun 8, 6:23 am, James Farrar <james.s.far...@> wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:57:55 -0000, "davidmetzg...@"
>
> <davidmetzg...@> wrote:
> >What sections are above street level?

>
> Most of it.
>
> From memory:
>
> Bakerloo north of Queen's Park
> Central west of White City and east of Stratford
> Circle - none
> District west of Earl's Court and east of Bow Road
> East London south of Surrey Quays and around Whitechapel
> Hammersmith & City west of Paddington and east of Bow Road
> Jubilee north of Finchley Road and east of Canning Town
> Metropolitan north-west of Finchley Road
> Northern north of Golders Green, north of East Finchley and around
> Morden
> Piccadilly west of Baron's Court and north-east of (???)
> Victoria - none
> Waterloo & City - none.
>
> Corrections from the group very welcome, of course. Thanks to David
> for teaching me what "El" means... :-)


That is well done from memory - but I think he means 'above street
level', like the Chicago EL
I know a few places:
The H+C Line around Ladbroke Grove
The Northern Line near Mill Hill East
The Piccadilly Line around Hounslow.
I am sure there are others.

 
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Old 8th June 2007, 03:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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On Jun 8, 8:20 am, Offramp <alaneobr...@> wrote:
> On Jun 8, 6:23 am, James Farrar <james.s.far...@> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:57:55 -0000, "davidmetzg...@"

>
> > <davidmetzg...@> wrote:
> > >What sections are above street level?

>
> > Most of it.

>
> > From memory:

>
> > Bakerloo north of Queen's Park
> > Central west of White City and east of Stratford
> > Circle - none
> > District west of Earl's Court and east of Bow Road
> > East London south of Surrey Quays and around Whitechapel
> > Hammersmith & City west of Paddington and east of Bow Road
> > Jubilee north of Finchley Road and east of Canning Town
> > Metropolitan north-west of Finchley Road
> > Northern north of Golders Green, north of East Finchley and around
> > Morden
> > Piccadilly west of Baron's Court and north-east of (???)
> > Victoria - none
> > Waterloo & City - none.

>
> > Corrections from the group very welcome, of course. Thanks to David
> > for teaching me what "El" means... :-)

>
> That is well done from memory - but I think he means 'above street
> level', like the Chicago EL
> I know a few places:
> The H+C Line around Ladbroke Grove
> The Northern Line near Mill Hill East
> The Piccadilly Line around Hounslow.
> I am sure there are others.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



"Elevated"?

District Line through the Putney area.

 
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Old 8th June 2007, 03:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Assuming EL means ABOVE rather than AT street level, then from memory
there is a section of the Barking to Gospel Oak line around
Walthamstow. Not LU. I know, but part of London's urban rail
network.

I've always wanted to ride on Line 6 of the Paris Metro, but on the
few times I've been to Paris been outvoted by the rest of the family!

Peter


 
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Old 8th June 2007, 04:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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peter wrote:

> Assuming EL means ABOVE rather than AT street level, then from memory
> there is a section of the Barking to Gospel Oak line around
> Walthamstow. Not LU. I know, but part of London's urban rail
> network.


A lot of the Goblin is elevated - it was built through already populated
areas.


 
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Old 8th June 2007, 05:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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On Jun 8, 1:57 am, "davidmetzg...@" <davidmetzg...@>
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> What sections are above street level?



You have to go up to the platforms at Upminster Bridge tube station.

Jonn

 
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Old 8th June 2007, 06:56 AM   #9 (permalink)
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On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Offramp wrote:

> On Jun 8, 6:23 am, James Farrar <james.s.far...@> wrote:
>> On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:57:55 -0000, "davidmetzg...@"
>>
>> <davidmetzg...@> wrote:
>>> What sections are above street level?

>>
>> Most of it.

>
> That is well done from memory - but I think he means 'above street
> level', like the Chicago EL


I think so too.

> The H+C Line around Ladbroke Grove


Is the Central elevated somewhere out west as well?

> The Northern Line near Mill Hill East


And in Golders Green.

The Met's up in the air at Hillingdon, isn't it?

The District line goes through Walford on a viaduct, but i'm not sure that
counts.

tom

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Old 8th June 2007, 07:17 AM   #10 (permalink)
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"Offramp" <alaneobrien@> wrote in message
news:1181287206.378760.25550@g4g2000hsf. ps.com
> On Jun 8, 6:23 am, James Farrar <james.s.far...@> wrote:
>> On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:57:55 -0000, "davidmetzg...@"
>>
>> <davidmetzg...@> wrote:
>>> What sections are above street level?

>>
>> Most of it.
>>
>> From memory:
>>
>> Bakerloo north of Queen's Park
>> Central west of White City and east of Stratford
>> Circle - none
>> District west of Earl's Court and east of Bow Road
>> East London south of Surrey Quays and around Whitechapel
>> Hammersmith & City west of Paddington and east of Bow Road
>> Jubilee north of Finchley Road and east of Canning Town
>> Metropolitan north-west of Finchley Road
>> Northern north of Golders Green, north of East Finchley and around
>> Morden
>> Piccadilly west of Baron's Court and north-east of (???)
>> Victoria - none
>> Waterloo & City - none.
>>
>> Corrections from the group very welcome, of course. Thanks to David
>> for teaching me what "El" means... :-)

>
> That is well done from memory - but I think he means 'above street
> level', like the Chicago EL
> I know a few places:
> The H+C Line around Ladbroke Grove
> The Northern Line near Mill Hill East
> The Piccadilly Line around Hounslow.
> I am sure there are others.


It's rare for London Underground lines to run at street level,
particularly at stations. So, the non-underground sections (more than
half the network) are almost entirely elevated (ie, on viaducts) or in
cuttings, probably more of the former than the latter.

They can switch quite rapidly. For example, the Picc is on a viaduct at
Alperton, drops to a rare ground level station at Sudbury Town, is in a
cutting by Sudbury Hill, is back on a viaduct by South Harrow and is in
a shallow cutting by Rayner's Lane (actually, it's more of a case of the
roads being raised above it).


 
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