El sections of LU

Mr Thant wrote:
> On Jun 8, 8:18 am, PhilD <phildea....uk> wrote:
>> Well, what DOES it mean?
>
> An el is a line built high above ground level as a way to get past
> existing roads and structures without tunnelling or too much
> demolition.

In other words, an elevated section - so why not use the word 'elevated'
instead of a term that nobody's heard of?

"Jack Taylor" <Jack@Carney.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Mr Thant wrote:
>> On Jun 8, 8:18 am, PhilD <phildea....uk> wrote:
>>> Well, what DOES it mean?
>>
>> An el is a line built high above ground level as a way to get past
>> existing roads and structures without tunnelling or too much
>> demolition.
>
> In other words, an elevated section - so why not use the word 'elevated'
> instead of a term that nobody's heard of?

Is the OP from the USA? - their 'El's (for it is a normal american
abbreviated usage) are typically those lines that go down the middle of the
street on a girderwork viaduct at about 2nd floor level, with roads
underneath - I cant think of anything at all like that in the LU system.

Paul

James Farrar wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:57:55 -0000, "davidmetzger0@"
> <davidmetzger0@> wrote:
>
>> What sections are above street level?
>
> Most of it.
>
> From memory:
>
> Bakerloo north of Queen's Park
> Central west of White City and east of Stratford
> Circle - none
> District west of Earl's Court and east of Bow Road
> East London south of Surrey Quays and around Whitechapel
> Hammersmith & City west of Paddington and east of Bow Road
> Jubilee north of Finchley Road and east of Canning Town
> Metropolitan north-west of Finchley Road
> Northern north of Golders Green, north of East Finchley and around
> Morden
> Piccadilly west of Baron's Court and north-east of (???)
> Victoria - none
> Waterloo & City - none.

You have listed the sections which are not in tunnel (forgetting that there
is an extra Bakerloo tunnel west of Kensal Green).

None of the underground runs along a street on stilts, like the "El" in New
York.

A small fraction of it is elevated, mostly where it crosses valleys. From
memory...

B - around Stonebridge Park
C - ?
D - ?
E - none
H - from near Hammersmith to Portobello Rd, not sure in East London.
J - Canons Park to Queensbury, around Kilburn.
M - around Kilburn, around West Harrow, around Ruislip Manor, around North
Harrow, at Pinner, at Northwood (unsure of north of Northwood)
N - around East Finchley, a very high viaduct near Mill Hill East, and south
of High Barnet.
O - none
P - around Oakwood Park, north of Arnos Grove, south of Arnos Grove, from
west of Hammersmith to west of Turnham Green, around Hounslow East/Central,
around Alperton, around South Harrow, and around Ruislip Manor.
V - none
W - none

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> "Jack Taylor" <Jack@Carney.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Mr Thant wrote:
>>> On Jun 8, 8:18 am, PhilD <phildea....uk> wrote:
>>>> Well, what DOES it mean?
>>>
>>> An el is a line built high above ground level as a way to get past
>>> existing roads and structures without tunnelling or too much
>>> demolition.
>>
>> In other words, an elevated section - so why not use the word
>> 'elevated' instead of a term that nobody's heard of?
>
> Is the OP from the USA? - their 'El's (for it is a normal american
> abbreviated usage) are typically those lines that go down the middle
> of the street on a girderwork viaduct at about 2nd floor level, with
> roads underneath - I cant think of anything at all like that in the
> LU system.

Except, as mentioned by another poster, some parts of the original DLR
(if you regard it as part of the LU system).

Jack Taylor wrote:
> Mr Thant wrote:
>> On Jun 8, 8:18 am, PhilD <phildea....uk> wrote:
>>> Well, what DOES it mean?
>> An el is a line built high above ground level as a way to get past
>> existing roads and structures without tunnelling or too much
>> demolition.
>
> In other words, an elevated section - so why not use the word 'elevated'
> instead of a term that nobody's heard of?

It's not true that nobody's heard of it. The OP certainly has. So have
I, and other people in this thread.
--
Michael Hoffman

incidently in NYC the locals call it a subway whether its subway or
el. in Chicago its called the el whether el or subway

On Jun 8, 3:18 am, PhilD <phildea....uk> wrote:
> On Jun 8, 6:23 am, James Farrar <james.s.far...@> wrote:
>
> > Piccadilly west of Baron's Court and north-east of (???)
>
> Piccadilly north-east of Arnos Grove (except for a tunnel at
> Southgate).
>
> > Corrections from the group very welcome, of course. Thanks to David
> > for teaching me what "El" means... :-)
>
> Well, what DOES it mean?
>
> PhilD
>
> --
> <><

El means elevated above street level

davidmetzger0@ wrote:
> On Jun 8, 3:18 am, PhilD <phildea....uk> wrote:
>> On Jun 8, 6:23 am, James Farrar <james.s.far...@> wrote:
>>
>>> Piccadilly west of Baron's Court and north-east of (???)
>>
>> Piccadilly north-east of Arnos Grove (except for a tunnel at
>> Southgate).
>>
>>> Corrections from the group very welcome, of course. Thanks to
>>> David for teaching me what "El" means... :-)
>>
>> Well, what DOES it mean?
>>
>> PhilD
>>
>> --
>> <><
>
> El means elevated above street level

Including embankments and brick viaducts?

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:28:18 -0000, "davidmetzger0@"
<davidmetzger0@> wrote:

>incidently in NYC the locals call it a subway whether its subway or
>el.

Indeed, though I've seen street-level referred to as "el", and hence
answered your original question on that basis.

You're welcome.

On Jun 8, 1:03 pm, "Jack Taylor" <J...@Carney.co.uk> wrote:
> Mr Thant wrote:
> > On Jun 8, 8:18 am, PhilD <phildea....uk> wrote:
> >> Well, what DOES it mean?
>
> > An el is a line built high above ground level as a way to get past
> > existing roads and structures without tunnelling or too much
> > demolition.
>
> In other words, an elevated section - so why not use the word 'elevated'
> instead of a term that nobody's heard of?

You don't do cryptic crosswords! El is commonly used in British
crosswords - if you see the word 'railway' in the clue one of the
things it could be is 'EL'.