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Old 27th March 2007, 06:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"David Cantrell" <david@cantrell.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Anyone know what loading gauge the CTRL has been built to?
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European? UIC 'C' gauge - whatever that is... but I think the platforms at
St Pancras are UIC 'B'

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Old 28th March 2007, 04:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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On Mar 27, 11:03 am, "Paul Scott" <notvalidpmsc...@>
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> European? UIC 'C' gauge - whatever that is... but I think the platforms at
> St Pancras are UIC 'B'


Between the Temple Mills spur and the tunnel, the CTRL has a structure
gauge of UIC C. Between the Temple Mills spur and St. Pancras, the
CTRL has a structure gauge of UIC B+.

 
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Old 28th March 2007, 04:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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On Mar 28, 9:08 am, "TheOneKEA" <theone...@> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 11:03 am, "Paul Scott" <notvalidpmsc...@>
> wrote:
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> > European? UIC 'C' gauge - whatever that is... but I think the platforms at
> > St Pancras are UIC 'B'

>
> Between the Temple Mills spur and the tunnel, the CTRL has a structure
> gauge of UIC C. Between the Temple Mills spur and St. Pancras, the
> CTRL has a structure gauge of UIC B+.


Why didn't they keep it consistent? Whats the point of C gauge the to
the spur then slightly smaller B+ beyond? Its not as if C gauge trains
could head off onto the DC lines.

B2003

 
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Old 28th March 2007, 05:37 AM   #4 (permalink)
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On Mar 28, 9:39 am, "Boltar" <boltar2....uk> wrote:
> Why didn't they keep it consistent? Whats the point of C gauge the to
> the spur then slightly smaller B+ beyond? Its not as if C gauge trains
> could head off onto the DC lines.


The only thing I can guess is that the route is UIC C as far as Temple
Mills to allow UIC C-gauged infrastructure trains to reverse in the
depot.


 
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Old 28th March 2007, 08:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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On Mar 28, 11:22 am, "John B" <s...@johnband.org> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 9:39 am, "Boltar" <boltar2....uk> wrote:
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> > > Between the Temple Mills spur and the tunnel, the CTRL has a structure
> > > gauge of UIC C. Between the Temple Mills spur and St. Pancras, the
> > > CTRL has a structure gauge of UIC B+.

>
> > Why didn't they keep it consistent? Whats the point of C gauge the to
> > the spur then slightly smaller B+ beyond? Its not as if C gauge trains
> > could head off onto the DC lines.

>
> It means that in the future, if we build a north-south HSL that goes
> via the KXSP complex, or if we regauge the existing mainlines to UIC C
> for freight/double-deck trains, we won't need to spend millions on
> regauging HS1 as part of the work. This is a Good Thing.


What I meant was , why didn't they make the whole line UIC C? Would
that extra inch or so on the rest of the line really have made so much
difference to the cost?

B2003


 
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First I've heard it is not meant to be GC to St P. Don't track
maintenance vehicles go that far especially in the tunnels? Is the
gauge officially declared anywhere TheOneKEA?

I thought the platforms were French height at St P - is that correct?

OC


 
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