Motspur Park speed restriction

Anyone know what's happening - or not happening - at Motspur Park?
There is a speed restriction of what feels like 1mph in both
directions. On Monday they said it was emergency engineering works,
but there's no obvious sign of anyone engineering anything.

Peter CS

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:28:39 +0000, asdf <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On 14 Feb 2007 04:16:23 -0800, pjcs wrote:
>
>>Anyone know what's happening - or not happening - at Motspur Park?
>>There is a speed restriction of what feels like 1mph in both
>>directions. On Monday they said it was emergency engineering works,
>>but there's no obvious sign of anyone engineering anything.
>
>Not an answer to your question, but I always find it irritating when
>I'm told that services are disrupted due to "emergency engineering
>works". Emergency engineering works are not the cause of the
>disruption; they are the solution to that cause. They're effectively
>saying, "We're not going to tell you why you're being delayed, because
>that might sound negative, which would damage our corporate image.
>Instead, we're going to patronise you by trying to put a positive spin
>on the disruption; you should be pleased that we're actually fixing
>the thing that went wrong (that we're not telling you about)."
>
>That's what I hear, anyway. ;-)

"A good service is operating on all London Underground lines". :(

On Feb 15, 4:38 am, James Farrar <james.s.far...@> wrote:

> "A good service is operating on all London Underground lines". :(

It's not on the Underground

I noticed a piece of Balfour Beatty road/rail plant heading out that
way on the line from the Raynes Park area yesterday morning, I guess
that is probably conencted in some way with this work?

On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:04:32 +0000, Dr J R Stockton
<reply0708@merlyn.> wrote:


>
>That might be the piece that was parked in Elm Road, a little north of
>the level crossing, at about 12:40 today; about TQ 2075 6850. OTOH
>Motspur Park is on a different line from Raynes Park.
>


Motspur Park is the next station after Raynes Raynes on a branch off
the main line.

Dave

Sounds like Balfour Beatty are busy then, hope NR are paying them
handsomely for the service!

Elm Road is on the Kingston Branch past New Malden. Whereas the one I
saw was on the branch to Motspur Park parallel to West Barnes Lane.

OC

On Feb 24, 3:52 pm, Paul Terry <nos...@musonix.> wrote:
> In message <nBPMlsoCk03FF...@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.inval id>, Dr J R
> Stockton <reply0...@merlyn.> writes
>
> >I've misplaced a better answer; but the unused hole is a bit over one
> >train-width to the north, and a few yards to the east, of the working
> >one. The ends are easily seen.
>
> Ah, got it!
>
> When built, both tracks of the Kingston loop buried

burrowed?

under the main line
> at Elm Road, and then ran in parallel with (but independently of) the
> main line (i.e. on what are the southern pair of the four tracks). So
> the mysterious hole was for the Kingston Loop up-line

The up line presumably being Kingston to Wimbledon (worth confirming,
as of course both routes out of Kingston go to London).
Did the rearrangement happen when the Wimbledon flyover was built (or
v.v.) ?

In message <1172334704.416674.42780@8g2000cwh..co m>,
twburford.uk writes

>The up line presumably being Kingston to Wimbledon

Yes.

> Did the rearrangement happen when the Wimbledon flyover was built

No, the Wimbledon flyover came much later (1936, I think).

From the late 19th-century until 1936 the lines were paired by direction
all the way to Waterloo, causing enormous problems because the slow
services and fast services had to cross on the level at Waterloo station
throat to get to the right set of platforms.

The Wimbledon flyover solved this problem by getting the fast (up and
down) services onto one adjacent pair of tracks and the slow (up and
down) services onto the other adjacent pair without a crossing on the
level, in advance of the terminus. A long way in advance, of course, but
I guess it was the most practical and cost-effective place to make the
switch in pairing.
--
Paul Terry