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Old 21st September 2006, 10:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm not sure when this started happening, but trains were running round
the loop again yesterday. Signs inside the train I was on had not yet
been updated.
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Old 22nd September 2006, 04:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Roland Perry wrote:
> I'm not sure when this started happening, but trains were running round
> the loop again yesterday. Signs inside the train I was on had not yet
> been updated.


I flew back from Bucharest on Sunday 17th and trains were running
around the loop then, as the press release said, but the diagrams in
the trains still showed the replacement bus service. London Transport
is usually pretty efficient about changing the in-train signage for
closures and openings, so this must have been a rare slip-up.

Patrick

 
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Old 22nd September 2006, 07:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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John Rowland wrote:
> They are certainly more efficient than you are at updating the name of the
> organisation running the Tube ;-)


Ha! Very good. I do get a bit confused, though - Transport for London
is the overall body, isn't it, but then it's subdivided into London
Underground, London Buses etc. Is that right?

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Old 23rd September 2006, 01:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Roland Perry wrote:
> I'm not sure when this started happening, but trains were running round
> the loop again yesterday. Signs inside the train I was on had not yet
> been updated.
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When does T5 open?

 
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Old 26th September 2006, 06:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 03:40:43 +0100, asdf <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>I suppose one possibility would be for the trains to be advertised as
>terminating at T4, and (by implication) going no further. (Line
>diagrams in Picc stations could even show T4 as being on a dead-end
>branch from Hatton Cross. Then again, this would cause confusion by
>being different from what's on the Tube map.)


Or they could have trains advertised as terminating at T4 or T5 with
prominent "all trains call at T1,2,3" messages.

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Old 26th September 2006, 05:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Mark Brader wrote:

>>> I suppose one possibility would be for the trains to be advertised as
>>> terminating at T4, and (by implication) going no further...

>
>> Or they could have trains advertised as terminating at T4 or T5 with
>> prominent "all trains call at T1,2,3" messages.

>
> Except the ones that don't go to Heathrow at all.


OK, "All HEATHROW trains call at T1,2,3".


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Old 26th September 2006, 06:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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But that implies that they got to T123, and then to T4, where they
terminate. Which isn't the case.


Stephen Farrow wrote:
> Mark Brader wrote:
>
> >>> I suppose one possibility would be for the trains to be advertised as
> >>> terminating at T4, and (by implication) going no further...

> >
> >> Or they could have trains advertised as terminating at T4 or T5 with
> >> prominent "all trains call at T1,2,3" messages.

> >
> > Except the ones that don't go to Heathrow at all.

>
> OK, "All HEATHROW trains call at T1,2,3".
>
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Old 27th September 2006, 08:38 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Peter Frimberley wrote:
> I've a vague feeling that the newish Heathrow Express tunnels also
> made provision for a T5 station where the original plan for it was,
> however that provision too has turned out useless.




The Heathrow Express provision is being used! It is a spur by Central
station, where the current Heathrow Connect trains reverse (not in
passenger use, obviously). The spur, which was put in during the
original construction, is being extended to Terminal 5 as originally
planned.

PhilD

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Clive D. W. Feather wrote:
> In article <obqkh25gs9onndjmmm0mlesp0patdgv9ts@>, Peter
> Frimberley <news20060804@pfrimberley89.com> writes
> >If I recall correctly, the T4 loop does include a straight section
> >somewhere near where, at the time of it's construction, they expected
> >a future T5 to be. However the T5 that's being built is considerably
> >larger and in a different place than the T5 foreseen back then.

>
> Correct.


AIUI there is a short enlargement (approx 30ft length) of the running
tunnel to station tunnel size on this section, with (possibly) a
platform, but certainly a passageway leading to an access shaft. I'm
not sure if the shaft contains an emergency exit (possible, given the
interstation distance T4-T123), or ventilation equipment, or is just
left over from construction of the loop. This can be seen on the west
side of a train (i.e. left) looking out around halfway between T4 and
T123, and is (or was, pre-closure) quite brightly lit.

 
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Clive D. W. Feather wrote:
> In article <obqkh25gs9onndjmmm0mlesp0patdgv9ts@>, Peter
> Frimberley <news20060804@pfrimberley89.com> writes
> >If I recall correctly, the T4 loop does include a straight section
> >somewhere near where, at the time of it's construction, they expected
> >a future T5 to be. However the T5 that's being built is considerably
> >larger and in a different place than the T5 foreseen back then.

>
> Correct.


AIUI there is a short enlargement (approx 30ft length) of the running
tunnel to station tunnel size on this section, with (possibly) a
platform, but certainly a passageway leading to an access shaft. I'm
not sure if the shaft contains an emergency exit (possible, given the
interstation distance T4-T123), or ventilation equipment, or is just
left over from construction of the loop. This can be seen on the west
side of a train (i.e. left) looking out around halfway between T4 and
T123, and is (or was, pre-closure) quite brightly lit.

 
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