"Loopy" Bus Services

Has London ever had any bus routes whose outer terminal operates on the
basis of a "loop" say round a big housing scheme perhaps with some
journeys going clockwise and others anticlockwise round the loop? I
suspect not because such "frying-pan" shaped routes don't tend to lend
themselves to having sufficient layover time to recover from
London-type congestion delays. Maybe some of the services which don't
venture into Central London run on this basis?
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gordon

tshanazt@ wrote:
> Has London ever had any bus routes whose outer terminal operates on the
> basis of a "loop" say round a big housing scheme perhaps with some
> journeys going clockwise and others anticlockwise round the loop? I
> suspect not because such "frying-pan" shaped routes don't tend to lend
> themselves to having sufficient layover time to recover from
> London-type congestion delays. Maybe some of the services which don't
> venture into Central London run on this basis?
> --
> gordon

I don't know about buses going in both directions round the loop, but
there are loads of routes with a large loop at the end with buses going
in just one direction round it. There's the 60 and 434 in Coulsdon and
the 466 nearby in Caterham to name but three near here.

Peter

There's also the H9 and H10 in the Harrow area..

The H9 used to be the H10 with yellow destination blinds, but got
renumbered to reduce confusion.

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Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk
Edgware.

tshanazt@ wrote:

> Has London ever had any bus routes whose outer terminal operates on the
> basis of a "loop" say round a big housing scheme perhaps with some
> journeys going clockwise and others anticlockwise round the loop?

Why only outer terminal?
Do you already know about the 109, which used to loop along the
Embankment between Westminster and Blackfriars bridges for its inner
terminal?

Caused me a minor panic in my bus route exploring days (early teens).
My usual strategy was to ride the bus for half the time available and
then cross the road to come back. 109s definitely went round the loop
both ways.

Colin McKenzie


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Colin McKenzie wrote:
> Why only outer terminal?
> Do you already know about the 109, which used to loop along the
> Embankment between Westminster and Blackfriars bridges for its inner
> terminal?

Hadn't considered the possibility of such a routeing at the Inner
London end. What did the buses show as their destination on the way to
the "loop" and was there a recognised point on the loop for the blinds
to be changed and layover taken?
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gordon

"Bill Hayles" <billnot@billnot.com> wrote in message
news:j5t7a2t521dp8sqlhn0u1fqp6k72bj14lk@...
> On 29 Jun 2006 05:27:59 -0700, tshanazt@ wrote:
>
>>Hadn't considered the possibility of such a routeing at the Inner
>>London end. What did the buses show as their destination on the way to
>>the "loop"
>
> WESTMINSTER and
> Embankment
>
> BLACKFRIARS and
> Embankment
>
> (i.e. "and Embankment was a qualifier)
>
>
>> and was there a recognised point on the loop for the blinds
>>to be changed and layover taken?
>
> IIRC, Charing Cross (now Embankment) station
>
> On this theme, for more than a few years Orpington local route 493
> ran both ways round Ramsden Estate. It had other complexities.
> Green Street Green journeys, as well as going round Ramsden Estate
> one way or the other to, it appeared, no logical pattern, double ran
> the section between Orpington War Memorial and orpington Station -
> except, that is, the journey that didn't and turned left at
> Orpington War Memorial and headed straight up Sevenoaks Road. School
> journeys took a completely different route (via The Highway and
> Court Road) between Chelsfield Station and Ramsden Estate.
>
> One mammoth journey went Chelsfield Station - Sevenoaks Road -
> Orpington War Memorial - Orpington Stn - Orpington War Memorial -
> Avalon Road - Ramsden Estate - Tintagel Road - Orpington War
> Memorial - Sevenoaks Road (direct) - Chelsfield Station - The
> Highway - Court Road - Tintagel Road - Ramsden Estate - Avalon Road
> - Orpington War Memorial - Orpington Station.
>
> (As a DG driver at the time I can say "been there, done that, got
> the T´shirt and needed a cuppa by the end)
>
> Little wonder that not only did buses seldom show the correct blind,
> but also sometimes went the wrong way round the estate (I plead
> guilty m'lud). That's why common sense prevailed, and all journeys
> were changed to run clockwise, and a common fare was charged to all
> points on Ramsden, whereas previously, you were charged more if you
> went the long way round.
>
> And finally, lets' mention the (in)famous 471 and its Pratts Bottom
> Circular (which ran the other way via Cudham as well, but that was
> never so funny). The blind read
>
> Pratts Bottom (Circular)
> 471 Knockholt Pound
> Cudham
> Orpington Stn
>
In my youth was the flat fare W21 which ran Walthamstow Central, Crooked
Billet, Chingford Mount, New Road, Highams Park, Fulbourne Road, Walthamstow
Central and vice versa, circular in both directions.
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Cheers, Steve.
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