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Old 2nd May 2008, 10:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I asked this in someone elses thread but thought I would put it to the
group as I am sure that we have many BJ players here.

Sometimes when my feet are tired I will go to a BJ table, buy-in for
2-300, play low limit, have a drink and let the dogs rest.

I have heard terms such as "you took my card" and been scolded when I
chose not to play according to statistical standards.

Has this reached superstition levels(much like, if someone hits chips
with the dice a seven is more likely to come up)due to the fact that
statistical standards are based on not knowing what cards are left in
the deck and what has been played?

Clue me in
DD
 
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Old 2nd May 2008, 11:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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On May 2, 10:42 am, DocDice <steve_johns...@> wrote:
> I asked this in someone elses thread but thought I would put it to the
> group as I am sure that we have many BJ players here.
>
> Sometimes when my feet are tired I will go to a BJ table, buy-in for
> 2-300, play low limit, have a drink and let the dogs rest.
>
> I have heard terms such as "you took my card" and been scolded when I
> chose not to play according to statistical standards.
>
> Has this reached superstition levels(much like, if someone hits chips
> with the dice a seven is more likely to come up)due to the fact that
> statistical standards are based on not knowing what cards are left in
> the deck and what has been played?
>
> Clue me in
> DD


It's your money. You play it however you want. I've seen people
double on 12 and split 3's against a dealer's face card. I can't
suppress a guffaw but the result is just as likely to help other
players as hurt them. If they don't like it they can go to another
table!
 
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Old 2nd May 2008, 12:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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On May 2, 7:42 am, DocDice <steve_johns...@> wrote:

> I have heard terms such as "you took my card" and
> been scolded when I chose not to play according to
> statistical standards.
>


Sorry DD,

Please don't play at my table, bad play is annoying.
Bad play, bad karma, I'm sure you see this at
the dice tables.

As far as taking someone elses card, it happens all
the time, it is just statistics, good or bad play.
You need a 10 on a double down (30.7%), you need
a card when hitting 16 (38.4%) .

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Old 2nd May 2008, 01:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On May 2, 12:16 pm, "dr. Baf" <slaza...@stargate.net> wrote:
> On May 2, 7:42 am, DocDice <steve_johns...@> wrote:
>
> > I have heard terms such as "you took my card" and
> > been scolded when I chose not to play according to
> > statistical standards.

>
> Sorry DD,
>
> Please don't play at my table, bad play is annoying.
> Bad play, bad karma, I'm sure you see this at
> the dice tables.
>
> As far as taking someone elses card, it happens all
> the time, it is just statistics, good or bad play.
> You need a 10 on a double down (30.7%), you need
> a card when hitting 16 (38.4%) .
>
> dr. baf


Then again one can't consider "bad play" as any play that differs what
one person rubs on his tummy at the moment.
DD
 
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Old 2nd May 2008, 01:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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"DocDice" <steve_johnson8@> wrote in message
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> I asked this in someone elses thread but thought I would put it to the
> group as I am sure that we have many BJ players here.
>
> Sometimes when my feet are tired I will go to a BJ table, buy-in for
> 2-300, play low limit, have a drink and let the dogs rest.
>
> I have heard terms such as "you took my card" and been scolded when I
> chose not to play according to statistical standards.
>
> Has this reached superstition levels(much like, if someone hits chips
> with the dice a seven is more likely to come up)due to the fact that
> statistical standards are based on not knowing what cards are left in
> the deck and what has been played?
>
> Clue me in
> DD


Never worry about what someone else thinks about your play. DD. Play your
own cards the way you like and screw them.
If they don't like your play, they can leave the table.

Mr. Nice Guy


 
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Old 2nd May 2008, 02:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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freddy wrote:
> On May 2, 10:42 am, DocDice <steve_johns...@> wrote:
>> I asked this in someone elses thread but thought I would put it to the
>> group as I am sure that we have many BJ players here.
>>
>> Sometimes when my feet are tired I will go to a BJ table, buy-in for
>> 2-300, play low limit, have a drink and let the dogs rest.
>>
>> I have heard terms such as "you took my card" and been scolded when I
>> chose not to play according to statistical standards.
>>
>> Has this reached superstition levels(much like, if someone hits chips
>> with the dice a seven is more likely to come up)due to the fact that
>> statistical standards are based on not knowing what cards are left in
>> the deck and what has been played?
>>
>> Clue me in
>> DD

>
> It's your money. You play it however you want. I've seen people
> double on 12 and split 3's against a dealer's face card. I can't
> suppress a guffaw but the result is just as likely to help other
> players as hurt them. If they don't like it they can go to another
> table!


I don't but when I am on a roll, I want to double on a 12.
 
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Old 2nd May 2008, 02:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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On May 2, 10:14 am, DocDice <steve_johns...@> wrote:

> I suspect that the person who plays by the carded probabilities
> religiously and one who chooses to play some other religion(while
> understanding the basic principles of BJ) would not finish that far
> apart at the end of a 3 deck shoe.
>
> What do you think?
>
> DD


Probably not, no, because that's only 20-30 hands. Giving away a
couple of percentage points in strategy, playing at $10 a hand, and
playing 100 hands an hour, is only about $10-20 in negative expectancy
per hour.

Rob "Fancypants" Taylor
 
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Old 2nd May 2008, 04:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
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"DocDice" <steve_johnson8@> wrote in message
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>I asked this in someone elses thread but thought I would put it to the
> group as I am sure that we have many BJ players here.
>
> Sometimes when my feet are tired I will go to a BJ table, buy-in for
> 2-300, play low limit, have a drink and let the dogs rest.
>
> I have heard terms such as "you took my card" and been scolded when I
> chose not to play according to statistical standards.
>
> Has this reached superstition levels(much like, if someone hits chips
> with the dice a seven is more likely to come up)due to the fact that
> statistical standards are based on not knowing what cards are left in
> the deck and what has been played?
>
> Clue me in
> DD


I'm not superstitous, its bad luck.


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Personally before we eschew a free market system, I think we
should actually try it first.--Kurt Ullman in AVLV


 
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Old 2nd May 2008, 06:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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On May 2, 10:16 am, DocDice <steve_johns...@> wrote:

> Then again one can't consider "bad play" as any play that differs what
> one person rubs on his tummy at the moment.
> DD


I can't remember if I read it on AVLV or somewhere else, but I do
remember someone once saying that "blackjack is not a team sport". I
totally agree with that. Unless of course you're the MIT team.

Kurt
 
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Old 3rd May 2008, 03:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
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On May 3, 9:07 am, "dr. Baf" <slaza...@stargate.net> wrote:

> Dear Ron,
> You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose,
> but you pick your friends nose.
>
> dr. Baf


Egad, a mangled cliche'.

Actually, the final line should be "...but you can't pick your
friends' nose."

Please make a nose, I mean note of it.

mine dem shnozzes

 
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