The Audacity of Dopes, Day 1, Part 2

Burt Cohen wrote:
> Part 2, and it's not even noon yet. But it's close.

I really enjoyed reading about your poker tournament and I'm looking forward
to Part 3.

Donna

In article <fm1mle$428$1@aioe.org>, Burt Cohen <burtcohen1@>
wrote:

> We used an ACG coupon for a free entree when paying our bill, and after
> a quick losing session of blackjack, I ended my first day in Vegas.

I agree with Donna, the poker tournament was a fun read. Were you
wearing your Vegas World jacket?

--- Walt

On Jan 8, 11:38 pm, Burt Cohen <burtcoh...@> wrote:

I told him I'd call
his cel when I got knocked out.

Burt: No, no, no. Should have read 'when I win this tournament'.
Remember
the power of positive thunking!! I probably would have played the AQ
the
same way (but I suck at poker). Don't know why you didn't win with the
hand,
I always had you pegged as a 'suck-out artist'. :).

Bill in Houston

On Jan 9, 12:38 am, Burt Cohen <burtcoh...@> wrote:
> Part 2, and it's not even noon yet.  But it's close.  I really did wait
> as long as I could at the airport, but the weather in Chicago didn't
> cooperate for Joey Dimes, and he would have to meet me at Venetian.  I
> had specifically flown in early to play in this poker tournament, so Joe
> didn't mind at all.

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Real tough break on that QJ hand but considering the situation
everything seemed to work out great. If you win that hand you
probably have a great shot at winning the whole thing but since the
bubble hadn't yet burst I can't blame you for folding.

Congrats

I'm alright, now. I seem to have regained my speaking ability.

Good installment, Burt. The whole thing about the Four Queens having
high-def TV's but no high-def signal is lame. That's like having a
stereo system with a Macintosh tupe amp & Altec Lansing A7 "The Voice
of Theater" speakers, then listening to a cheap cassette you made on
an Emerson or Soundesign mono tape recorder.

Cameron

On Jan 9, 12:07 pm, Andrew in Alabama <andre...m> wrote:

> Ecstasy:  Having Matt open-push before you at the final table of the
> SSSOP, and looking down to see AA.
>
> Agony:  Having Matt make a straight with his 77 to knock you out.
>
> On the bright side, it kept my streak of incredibly poor SSSOP
> play/luck intact!  And that year I was even playing sober!

I think you were the button, I was two ahead of you. Cam limped UTG+1,
as he limped every hand, so I pushed to either isolate him or get him
to fold.

You were 4:1 to beat me and I sucked out. What's sad really, is I was
dealt Aces twice, Kings once and Queens once within the 100 or so
hands of the tournament and they held up every time. And when I faced
aces, I sucked out. I never had to play well to win, just get a ton
of cards and get lucky.

Matt

Walt wrote:
> In article <fm1mle$428$1@aioe.org>, Burt Cohen <burtcohen1@>
> wrote:
>
>
>>We used an ACG coupon for a free entree when paying our bill, and after
>>a quick losing session of blackjack, I ended my first day in Vegas.
>
>
> I agree with Donna, the poker tournament was a fun read. Were you
> wearing your Vegas World jacket?
>
> --- Walt

Unfortunately, I could not fit it in my carry-on with the 3 tuxedos I
had packed.

-Burt

--
"I don't want to be your clown anymore. I don't want to do your donkey
work."

Binzer to Dan Tanna in Vega$ episode 19 "Doubtful Target"

So you played for 10 hours and made $140 per hour, probably not as much
as in you real job, but not bad for a day in Vegas and likely more fun.
Tom in Ct

George Leppla wrote:
> "Burt Cohen" <burtcohen1@> wrote in message
> news:fm1mle$428$1@aioe.org...
>
>>Part 2, and it's not even noon yet. But it's close. I really did wait
>>as long as I could at the airport, but the weather in Chicago didn't
>>cooperate for Joey Dimes, and he would have to meet me at Venetian. I
>>had specifically flown in early to play in this poker tournament, so Joe
>>didn't mind at all.
>
> <excellent post snipped to prevent excessive scrollage>
>
> Burt... congratulations on your placing in the money at the tournament and
> thanks for a very enjoyable read.
>
> I am fascinated by the popularity of Hold-em. Years ago I used to play 5
> card and 7 card at either the ElCo or the Union Plaza... but I never got
> into Hold-em. I have watch some tourneys on TV and still don't get it...
> but I must be the only one because it seems that everyone on the planet is
> playing it.
>
> You have a great way with words:
>
> "Just before a break at 8pm, I managed to win a very big pot by
> making the nuts on the turn and getting called down by the table maniac."
>
> And this would have been right at home in the Breanna Saga:
>
> "I pushed my last 6k or so chips into the pot and got
> one caller, a very attractive woman in her late 20s who had been playing
> well. She had me outkicked with K10, but I had lots of outs with a
> live 5 and any heart. A heart came on the river and I ended up tripling
> up."
>
> I enjoyed every word!
>
> George L
>
Thanks very much, George. I can't really compete with the true writers
in the group. I simply copied Thomas' style from the poker scenes in
the Breena story.

-Burt

--
"I don't want to be your clown anymore. I don't want to do your donkey
work."

Binzer to Dan Tanna in Vega$ episode 19 "Doubtful Target"

On Jan 9, 4:05 pm, Burt Cohen <burtcoh...@> wrote:

> Re-read the situation.  I checked the flop, then called his bet.  Then
> fired on the turn....just as I would if I had trips, which is what I was
> hoping to represent the whole time.

You're right. My mistake. In light of that, I think you misplayed
slightly worse. First mistake was playing it. Second was committing
half your stack to the bluff.

But, if you were to play it, there were other ways to go about it that
would represent the trips better:

- check-call, check-call (if he bets - not likely), bet
- check-call, check-raise (on a scare card), bet (if he doesn't fold)
- check, bet, bet
- bet, bet, bet

Really, if you had hit the trip 4s, would you have checked from the
blind with it? I probably wouldn't, and I wouldn't expect it at this
caliber of table. I would expect that at a $5 to $10 tourney, but at
this level, I would expect someone with a 4 to bet it straight out and
let everyone else guess. That's why I think this wasn't a good move
from the blind; Because of position, you can't make the play that
would best represent the hand you were trying to represent. Instead,
you didn't move until it was down to one other person. Your bluff
would have been far more effective against two players because you
would appear much stronger.

The way you played it, you checked-called, then bet, which looks more
like you're trying to steal it and perceive him as weak. Why would
you bet the turn if you have the 4 and checked the flop? You are
saying you don't want anymore in the pot, and there is no card out
there that would scare you. To look like you're slow-playing trips, a
check on the turn would have been better. He probably would have
checked as well, giving you a chance to bet more cheaply at the river
to steal the pot.

As for him calling on the river, I don't think it's terrible. If any
of his plays is questionable, it's his call on the turn, and I don't
think it is either. You are saying that you hit the flop with the
call. Your play doesn't suggest you hit your hand on the turn--if you
did hit your queen, you would still be afraid of the 4, anyway.
Subsequently, it doesn't look like you hit your hand on the river
either. He guessed right and given the board, I would expect him to
call the river if he called the turn.

Matt