Asymmetrical thurst

I never quite thought of it that way.

Flying a relatively light tailwheel aircraft, I found that going into a
slip at least allows you to figure out whether you have enough rudder
before committing to ground contact.

I had the experience at KEYW of finding I didn't have enough rudder
(flaps reflexed and all) until with a wingspan of the ground. Just as I
was aborting, I found that the wind gradient gave me just enough of a
break to complete the landing. I guess I was really thirsty.

How bad was it that day? The tower told me that a Malibu ground looped
earlier and damaged it's gear.

Kobra wrote:
>> Even in a single, why don't we see more forward slips to a landing instead
>> of crab, kick, and pray?
>
> I see no reason to pray. There's little difference in out come with the
> crab technique or the forward slip. One you put the plane in a slip early
> and keep constant control pressures thru-out your approach and the other you
> put the plane in a crab, relax your control inputs and put the plane in a
> slip in the last 10 seconds or so. Either the plane has enough rudder
> authority or it doesn't in either situation. Neither is superior IMO and
> definitely neither makes one a super pilot over the other. Seems to be
> personal preference.
>
> If you are proficient at one of these techniques you've got it covered. I
> don't think that there is any situation when one of these crosswind landing
> techniques is the preferred and only safe way to land over the other.
>
> Kobra
>
>

A B-52 pilot told me part of the approach setup was to dial in the right
angle for the landing gear so a crab would be possible while the plane was
rolling straight down the runway.

"Kobra" <kobra@yahoo.net> wrote in message
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> "Jim Carter" <jim.carter@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> > Watching the videos of the heavies crabbing to a landing in high cross
> > winds
> > prompts me to ask: why don't they use asymmetrical thrust instead of
> > kicking it straight in the flare?
> >
> > Even in a single, why don't we see more forward slips to a landing
instead
> > of crab, kick, and pray?
>
> I see no reason to pray. There's little difference in out come with the
> crab technique or the forward slip. One you put the plane in a slip early
> and keep constant control pressures thru-out your approach and the other
you
> put the plane in a crab, relax your control inputs and put the plane in a
> slip in the last 10 seconds or so. Either the plane has enough rudder
> authority or it doesn't in either situation. Neither is superior IMO and
> definitely neither makes one a super pilot over the other. Seems to be
> personal preference.
>
> If you are proficient at one of these techniques you've got it covered. I
> don't think that there is any situation when one of these crosswind
landing
> techniques is the preferred and only safe way to land over the other.
>
> Kobra
>
>

In article <K-adnSIeKsVBrEranZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@wideopenwest.com>,
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe <The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m> wrote:
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>"Jim Carter" <jim.carter@swbell.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> You're right - I got my slips reversed. Side slip into the wind, forward
>> slip toward the runway. It's all relative to the line of travel.
>>
>
>
>The way to remember it is that the names are backwards - in a side slip you
>look forward, and in a forward slip you look out to the side to see where
>you are going.

It's all semantics. A slip is a slip is a slip. The airplane doesn't know
the difference between a side slip and a forward slip because they are
aerodynamically identical. The only difference between a forward slip and a
side slip is the reason that the pilot is doing the slip: one is for
losing altitude without gaining airspeed, and the other is for staying
lined up on a runway in a crosswind.

-- Dane