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Old 15th January 2008, 02:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
Robert M. Gary
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On Jan 15, 10:16 am, "akjcbkJA" <G...@bnv.com> wrote:
> In England, the hood type devices are not allowed for serious instrument
> training or checkrides.
>
> The aircraft have to be fitted with a sort of venetian blind which
> completely blocks out the outside world to the trainee/applicant but al lows
> the instructor/examiner a full view.


If the window is covered up how does the CFII watch for traffic?
Sounds dangerous. Isn't it true too that in the UK you can't get an
instrument rating unless you first have an ATP?

-robert
 
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Old 15th January 2008, 02:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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AkjcbkJA,

> The aircraft have to be fitted with a sort of venetian blind which
> completely blocks out the outside world to the trainee/applicant but al lows
> the instructor/examiner a full view.
>


Well, I've seen those contraptions. That last part of your statement I
definitely don't buy. Dangerous! Unnecessary, too.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 
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Old 20th January 2008, 01:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:26:45 -0800 (PST), sjob829@ wrote:

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>There is a HUGE difference to me between actual and simulated.
>Besides the visual clues (shadows moving etc.), you always have that
>"security blanket" of knowing you can remove the device and see the
>real horizon whenever you want.
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>I've been training mostly at night (to eliminate shadows), and I want
>the most realistic (and most comfortable) device I can find.


I find my Jeppshades, while flying over dark ground or water at
night, just as good as actual. I have a bunch of fields in my area
with over water approaches.
 
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On Jan 15, 1:16 pm, "akjcbkJA" <G...@bnv.com> wrote:
> In England, the hood type devices are not allowed for serious instrument
> training or checkrides.
>
> The aircraft have to be fitted with a sort of venetian blind which
> completely blocks out the outside world to the trainee/applicant but al lows
> the instructor/examiner a full view.
>
> In practice they are really good as the head is not restricted, there is no
> scope to peak either. A bit expensive as they tend to be fitted to
> Instrument training aircraft although I have seen some removable versions.


Forget spotting traffic...how does the trainee transition to visual
for the landing? Must the instructor land the aircraft? Seems to be
an odd solution.
 
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