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Old 18th November 2005, 10:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Because a GPS failure or outage can affect an entire REGION, while if a
single ground based navaid goes on the fritz, other stuff nearby will
likely still work.

Truth is, right now, the best approach minimums are with ground based
ILS equipment. Unless you have baro-VNAV capability (which is not in the
cheaper GPS equipment) the GPS approach may leave you in the clouds
while the "antiquated" precision approach equipment can get you to 200
feet and a mile.

Get some instrument training.. not the whole rating.. but some.. and see
what is out there. (I am presuming you dont have one, but that is just a
hunch)

Also, if you dont have a rating yet, and plan to train in your own
plane, you will need to be equipped for the checkride to perform 1 type
of precision approach and 2 types of non-precision approaches (unless
things have changed and I missed the memo). Having a "cheap ifr GPS" may
not even have approach capability. Those that currently do are likely
only LNAV (no glideslope, thus non-precision approach). Unless you have
a Precision Approach Radar site, or a VNAV (baro aided or WAAS) you will
need an ILS to meet the checkride requirements in that plane


Dave

tom pettit peak wrote:
> So how come I can't just use the gps alone? It seems like it is much more
> flexible, and then I wouldn't be as dependent on what ground based stuff was
> available.
> tom
>
>
>>Basically, what this all boils down to, is this: If you have a
>>IFR-certified GPS system (TSO-129 certified), like the Garmin
>>GNS 430, you can use it for IFR operations, but the plane needs
>>to be equipped with the typical IFR navigation radios anyway.

>
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Old 19th November 2005, 02:08 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The problem with the less expensive unit is that they require more
external hardware to install. The more expensive units (GNS530, etc)
are "all in one" IFR units. WIth the GX55 you need to install a remote
head, a remote signal light etc. When you're paying $120/hr for
avionics labor, it gets expensive real quick,

 
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Old 21st November 2005, 04:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I put a used GX50 IFR certified in my 172 for the following cost:

Used GX50 with antenna at OSH 2 years back $1800
New Mid-Continent CDI with annuciators: $795
New Sandia Mode C encoder with serializer $350
Installation labor, sign-off, flight test $1350
Factory repair of used GX50 $450

Total: $4745 (plus misc shipping charges)


"tom pettit peak org>" <tompet<atdot> wrote in message
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> I'm currently flying VFR in a vfr equipped plane. What would be the
> lowest cost GPS based instrument system I could install and be legal for
> IFR flying?
>
> I looked through the last six months of this newsgroup, but didn't see a
> FAQ or the answer to the above, so I hope it won't be something that was
> just hashed out.
>
> thanks,
> tom pettit
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