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Old 17th October 2005, 05:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Until recently I was convinced that only a CFII could
conduct an instrument proficiency check (as opposed
to a plain CFI), but now I am confused:

14 CFR 61.195(c) says that an instructor must have an
instrument rating on *both* his pilot and instructor
certificates, i.e., be a CFII, in order to "provide(s)
instrument flight training *for the issuance of an
instrument rating*";

This is how a plain CFI (not II) can provide the training
required to satisfy the requirements of good old
14 CFR 61.109(a)(3) -- i.e., the three hours training
by sole reference to instruments required to get a
private certificate;

Now, the problem is that I haven't found where in the
regulations it is specified that a CFII must conduct
the instrument proficiency check (which is *not* training
for the issuance of an instrument rating that the student
already has); 14 CFR 61.57(d) says training has to be
provided by an 'authorized instructor' (in addition to
examiners etc.) -- is this what I am missing? that
would be an odd use of the term 'authorized instructor'
as compared to other places in the regs.

Now I probably missed something obvious, but can a
CFI (not II) provide the training and endorse someone's
instrument proficiency check? (and if not where is it
said in the regs?)

Note: I am not trying to do something silly, but
I am in the process of studying the regs in details
and I like to understand the fine points.

--Sylvain
 
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Old 18th October 2005, 01:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default question about instrument proficiency check

Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
> I can't find that statement specifically in the regs, although in John
> Lynch's FAQ's regarding Part 61,


thanks a bunch! I feel silly not to have looked for it in
the FAQ first (the fact that there is an entry in the
FAQ on this very subject would tend to show that the regs
by themselves are a wee bit ambiguous :-) )

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