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Old 3rd July 2005, 02:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
Gary Drescher
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"Jose" <teacherjh@aol.nojunk.com> wrote in message
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>> My currency just ran out last month and I was wondering within the next
>> six months Im allowed to have a safty pilot with me or do I need a
>> instructor to perform the six approches holds and tracking?

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> You can have a safety pilot and do the approaches VMC and VFR.


Yup. Or you can do the approaches IFR (either IMC, or VMC with a hood) if
you bring an instrument-current pilot who is the PIC for the flight.

--Gary


 
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Old 3rd July 2005, 03:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"jamin3508" <jamin35008m> wrote:
> My currency just ran out last month and I was wondering within the next
> six months Im allowed to have a safty pilot with me or do I need a
> instructor to perform the six approches holds and tracking?


As long as you operate under VFR, you can get yourself current again with
just a safety pilot (unless the safety pilot is able and willing to act as
PIC under IFR).
 
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Old 19th July 2005, 05:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Roy Smith wrote:
> "jamin3508" <jamin35008m> wrote:
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>>My currency just ran out last month and I was wondering within the next
>>six months Im allowed to have a safty pilot with me or do I need a
>>instructor to perform the six approches holds and tracking?

>
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> As long as you operate under VFR, you can get yourself current again with
> just a safety pilot (unless the safety pilot is able and willing to act as
> PIC under IFR).


At which point he's not a safety pilot, he's the pilot in command.
Safety pilots only have regulatory menaing for simulated instrument
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Old 19th July 2005, 05:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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And at which point you can no longer log instrument time/maneuvers towards
currency because the safety pilot is now PIC. The obvious exception is if
the safety pilot happens to be a CFII.

Jim
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> At which point he's not a safety pilot, he's the pilot in command. Safety
> pilots only have regulatory menaing for simulated instrument
> flight.



 
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Old 19th July 2005, 07:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Peter Clark wrote:

>>At which point he's not a safety pilot, he's the pilot in command.
>>Safety pilots only have regulatory menaing for simulated instrument
>>flight.

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> Isn't that what Roy already said by saying "willing to act as PIC"?
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Sorry, just being overly pedantic. When he "willing acts as PIC in IFR
conditions" he isn't a safety pilot anymore.
 
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Old 19th July 2005, 10:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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> But if someone else is PIC, can the "copilot" count the approaches
> toward currency?


Yes.

That is, if by "copilot" you mean the pilot flying - the one with his
hands on the controls, whether or not he has the final authority for the
flight.

Jose
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