Filing direct

There was a thread a while ago about filing direct, and the need to include
a fix
for each ARTCC boundary. Just thought I'd give my recent experience. I've
been flying up and down from CA to the North West a bit lately. The V route
from the Seattle area to the Bay Area is a horror. So when I came back from
Medford (ZSE) I just filed direct Point Reyes then the STAR for Palo Alto
(PYE1). I got some vectors for climbing (terrain to the South) then direct
PYE.

This weekend I went to the Seattle area. I filed direct Olympia direct. Once
I'd
been vectored out from under the jets coming into the Bay Area, I got direct
OLM.

This morning returning (from Renton), I filed direct PYE PYE1. My clearance
was SEA J1 BTG then as filed, but I got vectored out of the way of the jets
then direct PYE.

So, between Oakland and Seattle, three out of three. YMMV of course.

John

In article <blvfq6$6ld$1@news.Stanford.EDU>, Fred E. Pate
<fepate@> wrote:

> EDR wrote:
> >Maybe... maybe not.
>
> Interesting story. I suppose their offshore route was a preferred route.
> But why wouldn't the computer take your original planned route? Probably not
> because it didn't recognize the fixes, but because of traffic flow reasons.
> Same reason John does the PYE1 arrival over water.

That's my guess. I didn't have access to an AF/D to look it up.

>But why wouldn't the computer take your original planned route? Probably not
>because it didn't recognize the fixes, but because of traffic flow reasons.
>Same reason John does the PYE1 arrival over water.

I fly V3 which is the prefered. Leaving KLNA I open my flight plan with PBI.
Always get a few vectors east or west. Maybe 1 mile off shore. Then intercept
V3 and as filed.
Hank N1441P

Aha! Great catch question. It's actually a SJC arrival, you mean you
didn't think to look there? There's a note somewhere on the back of
the (Jepp) plate that tells you to look under SJC for arrival. (My
instructor pulled this one on me when I was training, so fortunately I
was prepared).

John

"Greg" <greg@killerobot.com> wrote in message
news:150cc0e9.0310071734.2a1c36e2@c om...
> I fly IFR out of Palo Alto and have never heard of the PYE1 arrival.
> Where can I find it? Is it a high altitude thing? It doesn't seem to
> be in the PAO section of my plates. Just curious.
>
> greg
>
> "John Harper" <jharper@cisco.com> wrote in message
news:<1065480517.160531@sj-nntpcache-5>...
> > There was a thread a while ago about filing direct, and the need to
include
> > a fix
> > for each ARTCC boundary. Just thought I'd give my recent experience.
I've
> > been flying up and down from CA to the North West a bit lately. The V
route
> > from the Seattle area to the Bay Area is a horror. So when I came back
from
> > Medford (ZSE) I just filed direct Point Reyes then the STAR for Palo
Alto
> > (PYE1). I got some vectors for climbing (terrain to the South) then
direct
> > PYE.
> >
> > This weekend I went to the Seattle area. I filed direct Olympia direct.
Once
> > I'd
> > been vectored out from under the jets coming into the Bay Area, I got
direct
> > OLM.
> >
> > This morning returning (from Renton), I filed direct PYE PYE1. My
clearance
> > was SEA J1 BTG then as filed, but I got vectored out of the way of the
jets
> > then direct PYE.
> >
> > So, between Oakland and Seattle, three out of three. YMMV of course.
> >
> > John