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Old 25th March 2008, 02:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just thought to show an excerpt from a Hawaii Beekeeper
Newsletter. Seems a member of the public thought to
write to find out what's going on. Have left out her
last name to save her from embarrassment.

"Subject: No bees in Kalihi

Hello,

I have not seen a single yellow bee in our garden so
far this year. Our macadamia tree is in bloom and
there are no yellow bees. Its eerie, where have they
gone? What can we do to lure them back?

Mahalo,
Iris."

 
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Old 27th March 2008, 03:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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On Mar 25, 8:25 am, "Alvin E. Toda" <a...@lava.net> wrote:
> Just thought to show an excerpt from a Hawaii Beekeeper
> Newsletter. Seems a member of the public thought to
> write to find out what's going on. Have left out her
> last name to save her from embarrassment.
>
> "Subject: No bees in Kalihi
>
> Hello,
>
> I have not seen a single yellow bee in our garden so
> far this year. Our macadamia tree is in bloom and
> there are no yellow bees. Its eerie, where have they
> gone? What can we do to lure them back?
>
> Mahalo,
> Iris."


Not sure this is embarrassing at all. You may find it very
embarrassing
when there is no tree fruit/nut/etc. to be had anymore that isn't
imported.

I found the bees in our yard pollinating our coffee. How much are you
willing
to pay for coffee? The price for formerly cheap coffee has already
doubled
in the past year or two. With the price of oil going the way it's
going we have
to think (and buy) local a lot more than most people have been doing.

As I said before, I don't think eradicating bees is a long term
solution.

Maren

 
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Old 27th March 2008, 11:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Maren at google wrote:

> Not sure this is embarrassing at all. You may find it
> very embarrassing when there is no tree
> fruit/nut/etc. to be had anymore that isn't imported.


I guess this is a serious problem. But just how do you
"lure" back dead bees.

> I found the bees in our yard pollinating our coffee.
> How much are you willing to pay for coffee? The price
> for formerly cheap coffee has already doubled in the
> past year or two. With the price of oil going the way
> it's going we have to think (and buy) local a lot
> more than most people have been doing.
>
> As I said before, I don't think eradicating bees is a
> long term solution.
>
> Maren


Certainly not in the mainland. But in places like
Oahu and New Zealand, it can work. IIRC New Zealand is
described as about 50X bigger than Oahu. But they
managed to eliminate quite a large number of bees
there. OTOH, there was a report recently in the
mainland of a fungus that works well in the late fall
and early spring-- when brood activity is lowest.

Put perhaps if the coffee can be genetically modified
with corn, then like corn it can be polinated by the
wind. :) Seriously, though IIRC coffee isn't in need of
bees? Don't recall how the coffee seed is created.

 
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Old 27th March 2008, 11:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On Mar 25, 8:25 am, "Alvin E. Toda" <a...@lava.net> wrote:
> Just thought to show an excerpt from a Hawaii Beekeeper
> Newsletter. Seems a member of the public thought to
> write to find out what's going on. Have left out her
> last name to save her from embarrassment.
>
> "Subject: No bees in Kalihi
>
> Hello,
>
> I have not seen a single yellow bee in our garden so
> far this year. Our macadamia tree is in bloom and
> there are no yellow bees. Its eerie, where have they
> gone? What can we do to lure them back?
>
> Mahalo,
> Iris."


Well, given the information presented here on sch - one thought is to
put
in/next to the garden one of those vehicles intended for transport on
the
SuperFerry. Such vehicles are purportedly very attractive to honey
bees
in Oahu for one reason or another....which reason was never really
disclosed
here.

 
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On Mar 27, 5:50 pm, "Alvin E. Toda" <a...@lava.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Maren at google wrote:
>> Not sure this is embarrassing at all. You may find it
>> very embarrassing when there is no tree
>> fruit/nut/etc. to be had anymore that isn't imported.

>
> I guess this is a serious problem. But just how do you
> "lure" back dead bees.


Well I guess you'll have to re-introduce bees then ...

The serious problem is to start with a bee eradication
without considering the consequences in the first place.

>> I found the bees in our yard pollinating our coffee.
>> How much are you willing to pay for coffee? The price
>> for formerly cheap coffee has already doubled in the
>> past year or two. With the price of oil going the way
>> it's going we have to think (and buy) local a lot
>> more than most people have been doing.

>
>> As I said before, I don't think eradicating bees is a
>> long term solution.

>
> Certainly not in the mainland. But in places like
> Oahu and New Zealand, it can work. IIRC New Zealand is
> described as about 50X bigger than Oahu. But they
> managed to eliminate quite a large number of bees
> there. OTOH, there was a report recently in the
> mainland of a fungus that works well in the late fall
> and early spring-- when brood activity is lowest.\


You don't get what I'm trying to say, do you?
Of course you can kill all the bees, probably in the
mainland too. But that is NOT A SOLUTION.

Unless you prefer to eat only wind-pollinated
fruit, etc.

> Put perhaps if the coffee can be genetically modified
> with corn, then like corn it can be polinated by the
> wind. :) Seriously, though IIRC coffee isn't in need of
> bees? Don't recall how the coffee seed is created.


Well, I saw honey bees around our one of our coffee
trees. Beans probably knows more about that than me.

Of course, macadamia nuts need bees, but then, those
are now brought in from elsewhere too.

Think about the rising prices of oil in this context too.

Maren

 
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