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Old 25th September 2007, 01:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Rick Smith wrote:

> I would think Young Brothers and Matson will spread
> the fire ant first, if they haven't already done so.


But the numbers don't go with Young Borthers... The
Super Ferry will probably handle many times the cars
than both of them and Ferry doesn't even plan to have
agricultural inspectors like Young Brothers, and we all
who have used Matson know that they insisted that the
cars be cleared of all contents in the car. They don't
want to transport any fruit flies to the mainland
inadvertantly. The ferry cars will be packed with
whatever their passengers want to transport to another
island. Remember the cars that were found on Maui full
with imu stones?

 
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Old 25th September 2007, 07:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Rick Smith wrote:
>
>> I would think Young Brothers and Matson will spread
>> the fire ant first, if they haven't already done so.

>
> But the numbers don't go with Young Borthers... The
> Super Ferry will probably handle many times the cars
> than both of them and Ferry doesn't even plan to have
> agricultural inspectors like Young Brothers, and we all
> who have used Matson know that they insisted that the
> cars be cleared of all contents in the car. They don't
> want to transport any fruit flies to the mainland
> inadvertantly. The ferry cars will be packed with
> whatever their passengers want to transport to another
> island. Remember the cars that were found on Maui full
> with imu stones?
>


Are fire ants transported by the cars that get shipped inter island?

 
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Old 25th September 2007, 07:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:10:07 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
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>> You don't want 'em. Good luck.

>
> Wow. These really seem to be trouble. Didn't realize
> that they were so agresive. And I guess they like the
> tropical weather-- judging from their original source.
> Will we be ever rid of them?


A great letter to the editor in our West Hawaii Today (Kona side
paper) yesterday regarding the seriousness of Tiny Fire Ants. Will
try to post the link later today.

aloha
beans
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Old 3rd October 2007, 12:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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On Sep 24, 10:10 pm, "Alvin E. Toda" <a...@lava.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Rick Smith wrote:
>> I would think Young Brothers and Matson will spread
>> the fire ant first, if they haven't already done so.

>
> But the numbers don't go with Young Borthers... The
> Super Ferry will probably handle many times the cars
> than both of them and Ferry doesn't even plan to have
> agricultural inspectors like Young Brothers, and we all
> who have used Matson know that they insisted that the
> cars be cleared of all contents in the car. They don't
> want to transport any fruit flies to the mainland
> inadvertantly. The ferry cars will be packed with
> whatever their passengers want to transport to another
> island. Remember the cars that were found on Maui full
> with imu stones?


Dat crazy, you know? No agricultural inspection for the cars?

And those ants on Big Island, they're for real. Scientists not even
sure how separate a species any fire ant is from other ants, so we
need to look out!

What is there to do about it?

Pili

 
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On Sep 25, 4:25 pm, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.> wrote:
> "Alvin E. Toda" <a...@lava.net> wrote in messagenews:1190697005-
> sch@news.lava.net...
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Rick Smith wrote:

>
>>> I would think Young Brothers and Matson will spread
>>> the fire ant first, if they haven't already done so.

>
>> But the numbers don't go with Young Borthers... The
>> Super Ferry will probably handle many times the cars
>> than both of them and Ferry doesn't even plan to have
>> agricultural inspectors like Young Brothers, and we all
>> who have used Matson know that they insisted that the
>> cars be cleared of all contents in the car. They don't
>> want to transport any fruit flies to the mainland
>> inadvertantly. The ferry cars will be packed with
>> whatever their passengers want to transport to another
>> island. Remember the cars that were found on Maui full
>> with imu stones?

>
> Are fire ants transported by the cars that get shipped inter island?


Well, probably not so much, with new cars. Fire ants are a lot like
other ants, though. They seek moisture and food. Food that they
like, which is sometimes in people's not-new cars. Or their beach
towels. They like shade and damp things. Picnic baskets, wet bathing
suits.

Pili


 
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On Sep 25, 4:25 pm, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.> wrote:
> "Alvin E. Toda" <a...@lava.net> wrote in messagenews:1190697005-
> sch@news.lava.net...
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Rick Smith wrote:

>
>>> I would think Young Brothers and Matson will spread
>>> the fire ant first, if they haven't already done so.

>
>> But the numbers don't go with Young Borthers... The
>> Super Ferry will probably handle many times the cars
>> than both of them and Ferry doesn't even plan to have
>> agricultural inspectors like Young Brothers, and we all
>> who have used Matson know that they insisted that the
>> cars be cleared of all contents in the car. They don't
>> want to transport any fruit flies to the mainland
>> inadvertantly. The ferry cars will be packed with
>> whatever their passengers want to transport to another
>> island. Remember the cars that were found on Maui full
>> with imu stones?

>
> Are fire ants transported by the cars that get shipped inter island?


What I meant, last post is - yes, regular cars be a great place to
transport em.

Pili

 
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:10:06 -0000, Pili Koa
<huika_i_olelo@volcanomail.com> wrote:

>
> On Sep 24, 10:10 pm, "Alvin E. Toda" <a...@lava.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Rick Smith wrote:


>
> Dat crazy, you know? No agricultural inspection for the cars?
>
> And those ants on Big Island, they're for real. Scientists not even
> sure how separate a species any fire ant is from other ants, so we
> need to look out!
>
> What is there to do about it?
>
> Pili


The ants are already on Hawaii Island, in Puna, on the Hilo side. We
don't have to worry about them coming, they are here!

aloha,
beans

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