Sour sop recipe in Honolulu Weekly

This week the Weekly has an article about food and
drink in Hawaii. The recipe for the sour sop sorbet
includes a suggestion for processing the fruit-- use a
food processor with plastic blade. Seems like a
delicious recipe.

On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:55:01 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
wrote:

>
>This week the Weekly has an article about food and
>drink in Hawaii. The recipe for the sour sop sorbet
>includes a suggestion for processing the fruit-- use a
>food processor with plastic blade. Seems like a
>delicious recipe.

I LOVE sour sop. We had a tree in Waipahu that we adored, but at a
later time in life, I tried some other sour sop and it wasn't as good.
Kind of like Jack fruit. Not all taste the same.

Couldn't you just freeze sour sop, minus the seeds iirc, and have
instant sorbet?

aloha,
beans
roast beans to kona to email
farmers of Pure Kona

On Sun, 20 May 2007, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:55:01 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
> wrote:
>
>> This week the Weekly has an article about food and
>> drink in Hawaii. The recipe for the sour sop sorbet
>> includes a suggestion for processing the fruit-- use
>> a food processor with plastic blade. Seems like a
>> delicious recipe.
>
> I LOVE sour sop. We had a tree in Waipahu that we
> adored, but at a later time in life, I tried some
> other sour sop and it wasn't as good. Kind of like
> Jack fruit. Not all taste the same.
>
> Couldn't you just freeze sour sop, minus the seeds
> iirc, and have instant sorbet?
>
> aloha,
> beans
> roast beans to kona to email
> farmers of Pure Kona

Sour sop doesn't have the smell of Jack fruit. Isn't
that the Durian that you're thinking of?

Sour sop is also called the custard apple. It has a
soft white appearance. I guess that's why the name.
Yes, it can be frozen, but before that I take the seeds
out by hand and blend it. Trouble is that if you miss a
seed, then the scrapings from the seed make the blend
kind of bitter. And it's so much easier to take them
out before the flesh is frozen. Was at Don Quixote
today pricing out the food processors. It's not at all
clear that each model has a plastic blade. And at $20,
I think that I would like to wait for a good sale.

That's the sorbet-- freezing the pulp with some
flavoring. I like to mix the pulp with some lemonade--
adding a little vodka also improves the flavor of the
drink. But IIRC, the recipe calls for straining the
pulp to just get the juice.

On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:15:00 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
wrote:

>
> On Sun, 20 May 2007, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:55:01 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
>> wrote:

>
> Sour sop doesn't have the smell of Jack fruit. Isn't
> that the Durian that you're thinking of?
>
> Sour sop is also called the custard apple. It has a
> soft white appearance. I guess that's why the name.
> Yes, it can be frozen, but before that I take the seeds
> out by hand and blend it. Trouble is that if you miss a
> seed, then the scrapings from the seed make the blend
> kind of bitter. And it's so much easier to take them
> out before the flesh is frozen. Was at Don Quixote
> today pricing out the food processors. It's not at all
> clear that each model has a plastic blade. And at $20,
> I think that I would like to wait for a good sale.
>
> That's the sorbet-- freezing the pulp with some
> flavoring. I like to mix the pulp with some lemonade--
> adding a little vodka also improves the flavor of the
> drink. But IIRC, the recipe calls for straining the
> pulp to just get the juice.

I know Jack fruit and sour sop are entirely different:). My comment
was that both fruits did not have a consistent taste from tree to tree
of their respective selves. I have had good and bad sour sop and good
and bad Jack fruit. No I do not think Jack fruit is the same as
Durian and don't have the time to figure it out. Sorry. In Jack fruit
you cook the large seeds and dip them in butter or so I recall from
decades ago.

Yes, I understand about freezing sour sop. You would not want a seed
for sure.

aloha,
beans
roast beans to kona to email
farmers of Pure Kona

On Tue, 22 May 2007, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:

>
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:15:00 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sun, 20 May 2007, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:55:01 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
>>> wrote:
>
>>
>> Sour sop doesn't have the smell of Jack fruit. Isn't
>> that the Durian that you're thinking of?
>>
>> Sour sop is also called the custard apple. It has a
>> soft white appearance. I guess that's why the name.
>> Yes, it can be frozen, but before that I take the
>> seeds out by hand and blend it. Trouble is that if
>> you miss a seed, then the scrapings from the seed
>> make the blend kind of bitter. And it's so much
>> easier to take them out before the flesh is frozen.
>> Was at Don Quixote today pricing out the food
>> processors. It's not at all clear that each model
>> has a plastic blade. And at $20, I think that I
>> would like to wait for a good sale.
>>
>> That's the sorbet-- freezing the pulp with some
>> flavoring. I like to mix the pulp with some
>> lemonade-- adding a little vodka also improves the
>> flavor of the drink. But IIRC, the recipe calls for
>> straining the pulp to just get the juice.
>
> I know Jack fruit and sour sop are entirely
> different:). My comment was that both fruits did not
> have a consistent taste from tree to tree of their
> respective selves. I have had good and bad sour sop
> and good and bad Jack fruit. No I do not think Jack
> fruit is the same as Durian and don't have the time
> to figure it out. Sorry. In Jack fruit you cook the
> large seeds and dip them in butter or so I recall
> from decades ago.
>
> Yes, I understand about freezing sour sop. You would
> not want a seed for sure.
>
> aloha,
> beans
> roast beans to kona to email
> farmers of Pure Kona

I guess that for taste, a lot depends on how the plants
grow. I've only had a little experience with Jack
fruit-- mostly in Asia. Right now, I'll only have the
ice cream version to remind me of the taste. I
generally still have the sour sop because there is a
tree in the yard. Over the years the trees have been
cut down for various reasons-- mango, lychee, lungon,
fig, papaya, banana. But there is still a lychee left.
Have been thinking of cutting it down because of the
leaves that need to be picked up-- but just the thought
of a bite into the fruit stops that. Same with the sour
sop.

I didn't know that the seed of Jack fruit tasted any
good. Sounds like something to try next time I get a
Jack fruit.

On Tue, 22 May 2007 22:20:01 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
wrote:

>
> On Tue, 22 May 2007, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:15:00 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 20 May 2007, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:55:01 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>
> I guess that for taste, a lot depends on how the plants
> grow. I've only had a little experience with Jack
> fruit-- mostly in Asia. Right now, I'll only have the
> ice cream version to remind me of the taste. I
> generally still have the sour sop because there is a
> tree in the yard. Over the years the trees have been
> cut down for various reasons-- mango, lychee, lungon,
> fig, papaya, banana. But there is still a lychee left.
> Have been thinking of cutting it down because of the
> leaves that need to be picked up-- but just the thought
> of a bite into the fruit stops that. Same with the sour
> sop.
>
> I didn't know that the seed of Jack fruit tasted any
> good. Sounds like something to try next time I get a
> Jack fruit.

I meant to write yesterday that the beans of a Jack fruit, if I
remember correctly, tasted like those steamed chestnuts that
Shirokiyas used to offer around Christmas?

You peel off an outer layer of the bean fro the Jack fruit and dip
that part into the butter. I know Jack Fruit grows on Hawaii island,
all over, but I don't remember much on Oahu.(My mother used to go to a
special jack fruit tree near Hilo Bay to get ours.) It is a huge
"fruit" maybe up to 20 pounds or more, kind of odd looking, and if it
fell on you- yikes! (Thanks for the memories.)

Oh yes, don't cut down your lychee!

aloha
beans
roast beans to kona to email
farmers of Pure Kona

On Wed, 23 May 2007, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:

>
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 22:20:01 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:15:00 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 20 May 2007, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:55:01 -0000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> I guess that for taste, a lot depends on how the
>> plants grow. I've only had a little experience with
>> Jack fruit-- mostly in Asia. Right now, I'll only
>> have the ice cream version to remind me of the
>> taste. I generally still have the sour sop because
>> there is a tree in the yard. Over the years the
>> trees have been cut down for various reasons--
>> mango, lychee, lungon, fig, papaya, banana. But
>> there is still a lychee left. Have been thinking of
>> cutting it down because of the leaves that need to
>> be picked up-- but just the thought of a bite into
>> the fruit stops that. Same with the sour sop.
>>
>> I didn't know that the seed of Jack fruit tasted any
>> good. Sounds like something to try next time I get a
>> Jack fruit.
>
> I meant to write yesterday that the beans of a Jack
> fruit, if I remember correctly, tasted like those
> steamed chestnuts that Shirokiyas used to offer
> around Christmas?
>
> You peel off an outer layer of the bean fro the Jack
> fruit and dip that part into the butter. I know Jack
> Fruit grows on Hawaii island, all over, but I don't
> remember much on Oahu.(My mother used to go to a
> special jack fruit tree near Hilo Bay to get ours.)
> It is a huge "fruit" maybe up to 20 pounds or more,
> kind of odd looking, and if it fell on you- yikes!
> (Thanks for the memories.)
>
> Oh yes, don't cut down your lychee!
>
> aloha
> beans
> roast beans to kona to email
> farmers of Pure Kona

Yes. I recall that the Jack fruit is large, and you
have to climb up to pick it. So I've been thinking that
the relatively small ones (that are easier to pick) I
see at farmer's markets are a little green. They don't
even have a smell. Don't really know here... Just
recall that the fruits on the tree are smelly. Anyway,
am waiting for the oderless Jack fruit to get on the
market. Heard that a Thai scientist has developed such
a variety for the American market. Isn't that the
craziest thing? Perhaps it'll become a fad.

Regarding the beans... peeling the outer layer sounds
like a lot of work. Just like peeling a chestnut. I may
like the taste, but I would probably not like the work.