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Old 6th May 2007, 10:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Surplus is gone... Legislative tax cuts shrink to $80 M


On Sat, 5 May 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:

> "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net> wrote in message
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>> The new spending is in the form of about $80M in
>> legislative tax cuts.

>
> One thing you can bet the farm on, is that these gusy
> and gals can always figure out a way to justify
> spendING our money, pure and simple. If I got this
> right, total state spending for the year comes to 9.8
> BILLION dollars....that is BILLION. Out of all of
> that spending, they could not figure out a way to cut
> that spending by just a little? Let us get real
> here....the answer is of course they could
> have....but they CHOSE not to do that, and decided to
> spend the money......


9.8 Billion? Isn't this a two year budget? Didn't think
that they spend so much in one year.

The governor makes the budget. But the legislature
modifies it. Chances are that the Gov. will sign the
bill. Can't change this unless perhaps all special
interest money is taken out of campaigning.

 
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On Sat, 5 May 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:

> "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1178316600-sch@news.lava.net...
>>
>> The new spending is in the form of about $80M in
>> legislative tax cuts.

>
> One thing you can bet the farm on, is that these gusy
> and gals can always figure out a way to justify
> spendING our money, pure and simple. If I got this
> right, total state spending for the year comes to 9.8
> BILLION dollars....that is BILLION. Out of all of
> that spending, they could not figure out a way to cut
> that spending by just a little? Let us get real
> here....the answer is of course they could
> have....but they CHOSE not to do that, and decided to
> spend the money......


Don't make unwarranted assumptions. Everything goes up
in price. And would having a surplus justify a cut?

 
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"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 May 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>> "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net> wrote in message
>> news:1178316600-sch@news.lava.net...
>>>
>>> The new spending is in the form of about $80M in
>>> legislative tax cuts.

>>
>> One thing you can bet the farm on, is that these gusy
>> and gals can always figure out a way to justify
>> spendING our money, pure and simple. If I got this
>> right, total state spending for the year comes to 9.8
>> BILLION dollars....that is BILLION. Out of all of
>> that spending, they could not figure out a way to cut
>> that spending by just a little? Let us get real
>> here....the answer is of course they could
>> have....but they CHOSE not to do that, and decided to
>> spend the money......

>
> 9.8 Billion? Isn't this a two year budget? Didn't think
> that they spend so much in one year.


I don't know, but even if is were a two year budget, that comes to a
little
under 5 billion, so my comment stands.

 
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On Tue, 8 May 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:

> "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1178505902-sch@news.lava.net...
>>
>> On Sat, 5 May 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>>
>>> One thing you can bet the farm on, is that these
>>> gusy and gals can always figure out a way to
>>> justify spendING our money, pure and simple. If I
>>> got this right, total state spending for the year
>>> comes to 9.8 BILLION dollars....that is BILLION.
>>> Out of all of that spending, they could not figure
>>> out a way to cut that spending by just a little?
>>> Let us get real here....the answer is of course
>>> they could have....but they CHOSE not to do that,
>>> and decided to spend the money......

>>
>> 9.8 Billion? Isn't this a two year budget? Didn't
>> think that they spend so much in one year.

>
> I don't know, but even if is were a two year budget,
> that comes to a little under 5 billion, so my comment
> stands.


Jerry, IIRC most of the spending is on entitlements. In
our expensive corner of the world, people need a lot of
help. How else do you think that those who are in
poverty, live in Hawaii? You can't cut that without
increasing the suffering.

 
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