High Rate of suicidal youth in Hawaii

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Jerry Okamura wrote:

> I would think that people with suicidal tendencies
> are not the ones who are generally going to go out an
> kill someone else, so I do not know what a gun has to
> do with the issue. Unless, you are referring to the
> cases where someone uses a gun in getting the police
> to shot them, but in that case, the gun was never
> intended to be used to shoot someone else. Am I
> missing something here?

People who are depressed often have morbid thoughts. If
there is stress from their environment as indicates in
this study, then their morbid thoughts lead to actions
of self preservation. In that state of mind, it's
difficult to get guns in this state. But not
impossible-- remember the Xerox killer.

--alvin

"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net> wrote in message
news:1112597109-sch@news.lava.net...
>
> On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>> I would think that people with suicidal
>> tendencies
>> are not the ones who are generally going to go
>> out an
>> kill someone else, so I do not know what a gun
>> has to
>> do with the issue. Unless, you are referring
>> to the
>> cases where someone uses a gun in getting the
>> police
>> to shot them, but in that case, the gun was
>> never
>> intended to be used to shoot someone else. Am
>> I
>> missing something here?
>
> People who are depressed often have morbid
> thoughts. If
> there is stress from their environment as
> indicates in
> this study, then their morbid thoughts lead to
> actions
> of self preservation. In that state of mind,
> it's
> difficult to get guns in this state. But not
> impossible-- remember the Xerox killer.
>
So, we are talking about a small percentage of
that small percentage of people who want to commit
suicide?

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Ase wrote:

> Hawaii need to be independent and free country.

Is this in reference to gun registration in Hawaii?

Don't see the problem. We even register all cars, all
houses, etc.