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Old 2nd April 2005, 02:05 AM   #21 (permalink)
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In article <1112309100-sch@news.lava.net>, "kimo"
<hawaiianstyle55@m> wrote:

> "A gated community (single homes or condos) guarantees nothing. It's a
> benefit, to be sure, but not a guarantee. It does, however, add to the
> property value and to the monthly expenses! "
>
>
> It guarantees a higher level of peace of mind. (And that is what many
> want.)
> It guarantees a reduction in strangers wandering or cruising around the
> neighborhood.
> Who knows WHAT percentage. But the before and after activity is proof
> enuff for some.


Ok...I'll agree to disagree.

 
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Old 2nd April 2005, 07:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Beaker wrote:

> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 04:10:03 -0000, Dktr Sus quoth:
>>
>> How many communities have anyone walking around
>> after work or in the early mornings? How many even
>> have sidewalks??! How may people would even enjoy
>> walking in their neighborhoods? How many people feel
>> SAFE walking across the street (Let's not forget we
>> have one of the worst pedestrian-death records in
>> the nation!)

>
> Not gated community related, but one of the first
> things I noticed after moving to Hilo was how few
> people I see walking or biking. I walk or bike to
> work almost every day, and it's extremely rare for me
> to encounter anyone else doing the same, and most of
> those that I do see are joggers, and second most are
> really old people out for their morning walk around
> the block. Plenty of people zooming around cars,
> though. Quite a shock after living in a few places
> where people are big on walking, biking and good
> public transportation systems.
>
> bkr


I agree. IIRC that when I sometimes drove in Palo Alto,
so many people would be on the streets biking. They
have terrific bike paths there.

 
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Old 2nd April 2005, 07:30 PM   #23 (permalink)
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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Jerry Okamura wrote:

> I just have to wonder how true your statement is. As
> we drive around Maui, everywhere you look the
> builders are putting up new homes. And just as soon
> as they are built, they seem to be sold. Now, I could
> be wrong, but it is hard to imagine that there are no
> locals, or even a minority of locals who are buying
> these units, and that "most" are being sold to
> outsiders.


You don't have to be a non-local to want this security.
Have a retired friend who sold and bought into a secure
condo appt. He's gone most of the year. He teaches in
Costa Rica in the summers and Thailand in the winters.
Mainly comes back to take care of taxes and other
personal affaires. So I guess he does pay his taxes on
his foreign earnings. Says he keeps the appt vacant
rather than try to rent it out. Will be returning to
Costa Rica in a couple of months.

--alvin

 
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Old 3rd April 2005, 11:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Auntie Maria
I love your island. I consider it my second home and I am glad to hear
about the resolution by the mayor. I live in California but the reason
that I live Kaua`i is the unspoiled beauty of it. I definitely don't
want to see any jamba juices or the like on every corner. I love the
people and the way of life, I lived there for a month (my longest) and
can't wait until I can live there fulltime.

 
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Old 4th April 2005, 02:00 PM   #25 (permalink)
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"O" <fsomf@uaf.edu> wrote in message
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> Auntie Maria
> I love your island. I consider it my second home
> and I am glad to hear
> about the resolution by the mayor. I live in
> California but the reason
> that I live Kaua`i is the unspoiled beauty of
> it. I definitely don't
> want to see any jamba juices or the like on
> every corner. I love the
> people and the way of life, I lived there for a
> month (my longest) and
> can't wait until I can live there fulltime.
>


One thing you can bet your life on is that Kauai,
like anyplace else in the world, is going to
change. Will it change for what you think is for
the "better" or for the "worse" depends on your
definition of what is "better" or "worse", when
you are ready to make that decision.

 
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Old 5th April 2005, 02:35 PM   #26 (permalink)
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<acne_is_incurable@m> wrote in message
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>
> Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>>


But tell me, are the realtors and homeowners
(sellers) as
> shifty in Kauai as they are in Oahu?


Can't answer your question, I live on Maui, but we
had not trouble with the realtor we used. As a
matter of fact, I was very pleased with the
service he provided, especially since he saved us
a whole lot of money, by knowing what the seller
would settle for when we made our offer.

 
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Old 6th April 2005, 11:40 AM   #27 (permalink)
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> One thing you can bet your life on is that Kauai,
> like anyplace else in the world, is going to
> change.



as maui has. Which is now, mostly nothing more than an overly populated
island fulla el lay transplants.
sad.

 
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