East Kauai area lack of water

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Jerry Okamura wrote:

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> "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1066815304-sch@news.lava.net...
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> > No it does not "translate". We can build at higher
> > densities. Using the land may just create more
> > problems.
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> All that means is you use "less" of the land. You
> still end up "using " land. Besides, you have only
> addressed one part of the issue, and that is housing.
> What about the need for retail establishments,
> government facilities, schools, bigger highways, etc.

Why would we still want to expand on prime ag land? Why
not just continue to build tall buildings like we do
along the Kapiolani Ave at the Ala Wai??? It seems to
me that replacing the homes and low rise appts accross
Kapiolani ( in Moilili ) could increase the population
a hundred fold in that area, and the Bus could handle
the commute to town or Waikiki for workers who live
there.

> > There is a lot more land available in the mainland
> > compared to Hawaii. Land is a lot more limited
> > here-- prime ag land more so. Urban sprawl here in
> > this island may mean the destuction of diversified
> > agriculture, as well as harm to our tourist
> > industry which requires a pristine and unspoiled
> > environment. We have planned to mitigate these
> > effects. Changing zoning without good cause is
> > harmful.
> >
> There was a whole lot of land when I first moved to
> Los Angeles at one time. And, obviusly, more people
> mean more land used for their needs, which translates
> to higher prices for the land, and less for
> agriculture. So, it still boils down to population
> growth.

It's a matter of values. If we accept the LA urban
sprawl, then that's all of what we'll see on Oahu--
houses from shore to shore.

> As for what harm this will do to the tourist
> industry, doesn't that depend on a whole lot of
> factors, other than a pristine environment. After
> all, Los Angeles is still a popular tourist
> destination.

Los Angeles hardly compares to what he have in Hawaii.
Even arround Disneyland there is a nice first class
hotel. But most of the other accomadations are just
really nice motels. Even near the Anaheim convention
center, I notice only really two really first class
hotels. The others are your basic businessman's
accomodations. LA is full of motels for motorists
driving through, but it isn't the same kind of draw
that Hawaii is.

--alvin