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Old 28th August 2003, 12:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It's time for some competing bus companies...



 
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Old 29th August 2003, 02:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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> Mel Kahele is another big fake and disappointment. He
> didn't stop getting paid when the drivers went on strike.
> It's not that hard to promote a strike that doesn't affect
> your own earnings one way or another...

Is he the leader of the union? If so, since when has anyone working in the
union offices been ever affected by a strike. Don't they continue working
and getting paid by the union?
 
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Old 29th August 2003, 02:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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> It's time for some competing bus companies...

As in one that takes over MTL (the current company) or have
a bunch of smaller companies that each company service a different
part of the island?
 
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Old 29th August 2003, 12:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.> wrote in message
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> "Gino Lancette" <lancetteg001@hawaii.> wrote in message
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> >
> > Mel Kahele is another big fake and disappointment. He
> > didn't stop getting paid when the drivers went on strike.
> > It's not that hard to promote a strike that doesn't affect
> > your own earnings one way or another...
> >

> Is he the leader of the union?


Yes.

> If so, since when has anyone working in the
> union offices been ever affected by a strike. Don't they continue working
> and getting paid by the union?


Change that, and I can assure you there would be fewer strikes....



 
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Old 29th August 2003, 11:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I would guess that Kahele is on the union staff-- like
a director of the bargaining units?? If so then he can
be fired from the union if his performance is bad. But
being a good union man, I'm sure he also belongs to
another union? A labor contract would apply to him as
well-- and he would probably be well aware of his
rights having worked on the staff.

I'm sure he'll get his pay hikes even if it means that
they stay out of work long enough to earn them. It'll
be harder to go backwards on the next go round, and the
economy may be better at that time. Even so the no
layoffs rule would work well if the economy went bad
here, or ridership fell off with the start of the BRT.
Drivers may not want to switch to the BRT vehicles.

--alvin
 
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Old 29th August 2003, 11:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Helen Rapozo wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, tongaloa wrote:
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> > It's time for some competing bus companies...
> >

> As in one that takes over MTL (the current company)
> or have a bunch of smaller companies that each
> company service a different part of the island?


But it's like a utillity. The company has a public
fanchise. Unless they go on strike, no other company
can operate the same service.

 
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Old 30th August 2003, 07:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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How much traffic still exists with your bus service when its running cut
down on the use of the cars that people drive.

I have found that people still want to drive and use their car for
transportation.

Bus service is a schedule, andpeople do not like and want to build their
daily life around a schedule, which most of do live on a schedule. The
waiting and taking bus to me a real pain. Unless everything you do is
on the bus line and you do not have to transfer to get to another part
of the city you want to go the time involved , time is important to
people , they do like to spend time with their family and take the
family without having to wait on a bus

What has this bus service done to cut the traffic down if any. People
love their car and will not give them up.

Bus provide service for those who cannot drive or to old to drive or not
afford a car.

As I see it the car is here to stay even light rail will not solve the
problem only ad to the traffic jams. Only way people will park their
car is the world runs out of gas
and they will still find a way to run a car.

Electric, fuel cells what ever will do it solar power. I love my
car..



 
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Old 31st August 2003, 02:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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"Judy" <jbarrett@hawaii.dot.> wrote in message
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> Rockmanca Hays wrote:
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> > What has this bus service done to cut the traffic down if any.

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> I was rather stunned to find the traffic completely dissipated at 6:30
> as I was driving into town on Day 1 of the strike. On the news people
> were complaining that it had taken them 55 minutes instead of 35 minutes
> to get from home to work. Oh, my!
>

That is how we humans react. I remeber when I came home to attend U of H,
that it did not take long before I thought that going into town was a long
time.



 
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Old 31st August 2003, 05:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@lava.net> wrote in message
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> OTS was formed because of the 3 and 6 month strikes in
> the past. If this one lasts much longer, then there
> will be a lot of pressure to convert the OTS system to
> a city-owned system. Hopefully, the strike will end
> when the city council approves the new fare hikes--
> soon. If not, then it may be much longer than expected.
>

You have got to be kidding me. Did they think that by forming OTS they
could avoid future strikes. Or was there some other fundamenhtal reason
they chose forming OTS.



 
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Old 31st August 2003, 07:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Michael J Wise wrote:
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> Judy wrote:
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> > This is manini.

>
> Try Mililani, then.
> Cow-Orker's commute is now upwards of 2 hours each way.
>


And before the strike it was an hour and 15 each way in commute traffic?
Still less than tragic.



 
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