Desire to move to Hawaii

The big escape is not real future to put yourself in when you do not
have a clue what the Islands are all about year round.

Visiting during a brief time During Jan for a few days does not make you
knowledgeable of what life is all about.

It takes money and lots of it, you are of retirement age and have a
retirement you could not even live on Social Security
it would take all you can scrape together
and then you have your age and health to worry about. This all takes
money and when you come with health problems , no job, no retirement
where does this leave you.

Then you find it was not the glory land you thought it was.

Its not about lying on the beach, walking the beach, surfing, hiking
you would soon get tired of doing the same thing and looking at the same
small four walls you live in.

If you want to hold hands and watch the sunset go for it. If thats all
you want to do there is a world out there to explore besides siting in
Islands spending money you do not have. Tomorrow does come.

Ben Sure grumbled:

> It takes money and lots of it

Rubbish. I've lived here very nearly 14 years and I have never had "lots"
of money.

> you are of retirement age and have a
> retirement you could not even live on Social Security

Rubbish, again.

> it would take all you can scrape together
> and then you have your age and health to worry about.

If you're the worrying kind, you have that to worry about no matter where
on the planet you are. But Hawaii is certainly one of the best States for
healthcare for the not-so-wealthy and one of the most kind to old folks.

> Then you find it was not the glory land you thought it was.

If you're expecting "glory land" then, once again, nowhere on earth is
going to meet your expectations.

> Its not about lying on the beach, walking the beach, surfing, hiking
> you would soon get tired of doing the same thing and looking at the same
> small four walls you live in.

And this wouldn't happen anywhere else, as well?

You seem to be a very bored person, "Ben Sure".

This is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. The weather is,
well, let's see, about 90 percent wonderful. Flowers and greenery all
year round. Mostly (again, I'd say 90 percent) wonderful people.
Splendid music.

Like Bob Dylan sang, "I've been around the world" ... but I've never seen
any place better than this. Otherwise, I'd be there. :)

thanks for your comments, cool you must live in the lower end of the
money cycle.

Sure anyone can live anyplace without money, what is the quaility of
your living quarters and your monthly income.

Lots of people live on little money,
sure the Islands are neat place to visit and then leave and return a
year or so again that is what makes it special. Its just another place
on the planet that is over priced in property value. If you want to
spend a life time of hard work to purchase property its pretty expensive
rent Me I have worked to hard and long in my life to blow it on high
priced property .

Enjoy your life style you still need to work to pay the bills.

Health care is not cheap nor prescription drugs, but if you are State
aid you got it made.

tropospherem (troposphere) wrote in message news:<1059108612-sch@news.lava.net>...
> Hi, I just joined this group. I'm a Seattle resident who is exploring
> job opportunities in Hawaii, as I think I would like to move there.
> Am a software tester who has been unemployed almost 2 years in
> Seattle's terrible job market.
>
You are a software tester and you want to leave Seattle??? For
Hawaii???

You actually think you'd find more work in software in Hawaii?????

> Though I have never been to Hawaii, I think I would love living there.

You might also hate it. A lot of people do. Think "different culture"
with the emphasis on "different". Also the climate doesn't agree with
everybody, believe it or not, and also there are bugs, and high
prices, but mostly, the culture is *different*.


> Anyone know if there is strong demand for IT people in Hawaii that
> they can't find locally?

Hell, no.... There are waaaaaay more qualified and talented software
people in Hawaii than industry can use. Sheesh.

In Hawaii, you take whatever kind of work you can get. What you
do for a living doesn't define who you are, as it does on the
mainland.

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:50:08 -0000, Maren Purves
<m.purves@jach.hawaii.edu> wrote:

>and we have seen many many leave (here in Hilo) because they didn't like it
>here for one reason or the other. Rock fever, heat, humidity, mosquitoes,
>spouse being bored, lack of "culture" (things like opera and such), too far
>away from family ...

Hey, I'm another one of those aspiring Aloha residents willing to make
Hawaii my home state sight unseen. I've never been to Hawaii except
for a 2 hour layover 20 years ago. I'll, however, make an exploratory
visit first. But that I'm harboring these feelings well before the
visit shouldn't be all that unwarranted or surprising.

I need the climate nicely under control. Summers and winters are
extremely harsh on the East Coast. I've had it dealing with the
humidity and heat in the summer and the cold spells and short daylight
hours of winter.

I also want out of the rat race. I want a place that is not likely to
be the next target of terrorism, a distinct possiblity if you live on
the congested East Coast. I need a more relaxing lifestyle. I want
to escape the smog and pollution, which are ravaging the mainland. I
want to be able to breathe fresh air and feel the cool ocean breeze
untainted by the freeway smog.

Florida is too humid for me. California is too crowded and there is
too much pollution. The Pacific Northwest is too cold and rainy.

Maybe it's an early midlife crisis. But there's more to life than
working one's life away. The quality of life ranks highly with me and
I'm willing to sacrifice other things to attain it.

What better place than the Aloha State? The question isn't, "Why
Hawaii," but "Why Not Hawaii?"

That's why I'm ogling the island of Oahu. Hopping on the Honolulu
bandwagon. And pulling for Hawaii.

PS: what is "rock fever?"

Suggest you rent and try it for a year and get the feel of the Island
living. Its a big step and when you come from an area that is a lot of
things to see and do ,
Big adjustment for the family also,
You need a money

25 years ago was a lot different then it is now. Just look at the no of
people that think they want to live has increased
they come and go most did not realize and do their homework. 25 years
ago is
no comparison to the prices of today.

Its easy to say I have been here and look I am still here. Well thats
grand, time change..

Prices of real estate have gone out of sight, jobs are a big factor -
none only
min wage service jobs. Most mainlanders think they are above this wage
and want their $15.00 to $20.00 a hour job.
or more ??????
Homework is needed in all areas ,

Babalu Aloha wrote:
>
>
> PS: what is "rock fever?"

It's what used to happen to people who moved here when the only
affordable means of transportation was an ocean liner and passage was
the equivalent of a year's salary or more. Once here, if folks missed
home, they could spend a lifetime trying to save enough to get back.

Sue Larkin <suereel@xobop.com> wrote in message news:<1062361206-sch@news.lava.net>...
> In article <1062322507-sch@news.lava.net>, Babalu Aloha
> <sskim87_remove_@> wrote:
> > PS: what is "rock fever?"
>
> A feeling of confinement...or, as a former mainland BF
> exclaimed..."Everywhere I turn, there's water."!!!

When I was ten years old, my folks took me on a whirlwind tour of
western North America. I remember getting off the bus in Wyoming, or
Colorado, or maybe it was one of the Dakotas. Wherever it was, I
turned in a slow 360-degree circle, and as far as my eyes could see,
the land was flat and dry and brown. I was hit by the realization that
I was very, very, very, very far from the ocean. It gave me a sorta
sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

I think that's rock fever in reverse. :-)