Ryanair : soon no checked baggage service

"Alan (in Brussels)" <alanfree@planetinternet.vermifuge.be> wrote in message
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> I think this may be of interest to some readers.
>
>
> In preparation for scrapping checked-in bags, Ryanair recently doubled its
> charge for excess baggage to EUR 7.00 per kilogramme and increased the
> permitted weight of bags in aircraft cabins from seven to 10kgs.

They are going to have to do better than that. easyJet already allowed
'unlimited' weight in hand luggage.

On 09/07/2004 11:18, Alan (in Brussels) wrote:
> Ryanair is to take its "no frills" travel philosophy to a new level by
> banning passengers from stowing luggage in the hold of its aircraft, a move
> it claims will eliminate the need for check-in desks.

Personally that makes me even less inclined to fly with them again. I
flew with Ryanair last month for the first time and it was not a nice
experience, and I've heard the same from several other people who've
travelled with them (by contrast, I've flown with easyJet and Basiqair
dozens of times and have had no real cause for complaint with either of
them).

The added inconvenience of having to organise my luggage to fit into a
small bag and to be no more than 10 kilos in weight would probably put
me off completely.

On 09/07/2004 14:22, Jim Ley wrote:
> Good! I think that's the idea... they only want customers who want the
> pay f'all short break people (and people with 2nd homes/jobs etc.)

I travel between France and the Netherlands every single week for work,
but my suitcase is always at least 15 kilos so I wouldn't fly Ryanair if
they did introduce this new system.

> If it can knock 20quid a leg from the peaktime flights, then great,
> I'll also _much_ prefer not all that check-in mess. (what will STN do
> with all the FR desks though?) I can also arrive later for my flight,
> since I'll only have the security queue and not the checkin and
> security queue to get through.

I quite like the KLM check-in system at Schiphol airport where you check
in for your flight using your frequent flyer card or your passport (or
you can check in online), and then you drop your suitcase at the baggage
drop-off. Usually takes 2 or 3 minutes in total.

Jim Ley schrieb:
>
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:55:56 GMT, John D <johnd667@m> wrote:
>
> >On 09/07/2004 14:22, Jim Ley wrote:
> >> Good! I think that's the idea... they only want customers who want the
> >> pay f'all short break people (and people with 2nd homes/jobs etc.)
> >
> >I travel between France and the Netherlands every single week for work,
> >but my suitcase is always at least 15 kilos so I wouldn't fly Ryanair if
> >they did introduce this new system.
>
> You travel with more luggage than their target audience obviously.
>
> >I quite like the KLM check-in system at Schiphol airport where you check
> >in for your flight using your frequent flyer card or your passport (or
> >you can check in online), and then you drop your suitcase at the baggage
> >drop-off. Usually takes 2 or 3 minutes in total.
>
> Hmm, last time I did this it took 20 minutes to drop off the bags,
> almost as long as the check-in queue - also remember if everyone is
> dropping off bags then the advantages that the bag drop off queue is
> tiny doesn't work, it's simply because so far most people queue up for
> traditional checkin.
>
> Jim.

Lufthansa has e-ticket checkin machines that check in baggage as well.
They also have attendants who make sure the passengers don't make
mistakes.
T.

"Jim Ley" <jim@jibbering.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:09:36 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
> <lennart.petersen@swipnet.se> wrote:
>
> >They seem to have started already, more or less. Travelled back from
> >Lübeck to Skavsta last week and the check in staff encouraged me to have
my
> >bags as hand luggage rather than check-in. A small pair of scissors (4cm
> >long) were confiscated and the security said "nicht erlaubt" while razor
> >blades were o.k
>
> Interesting, I flew Lubeck stanstead on September 15th 2001, and they
> were happy with a 2 inch penknife in the webbing of my carry on (I
> actually didn't realise it was there until I landed)
> Jim.
Obviously the security guard knew exactly where to find it. He ordered me to
open the bag, searched for the small bag with toilet articles and found the
small scissors immediately. No reason to whine about, was a worth of GBP1
or so but I guess such new rules as Ryan proposes must necessarily result in
much more time spend for screening and search in peoples luggage if they've
to bring everything into the cabin.
Time saved at one end is probably spend at another.
50GBP seem to be real expensive for the convenience of checked luggage.
Let's say I'm prepared to pay 10GBP or so for that convenience, all assuming
the tickets are reduced with same amount !

On 2004-07-09, Alan (in Brussels) <alanfree@planetinternet.vermifuge.be> wrote:
>
> Ryanair is to take its "no frills" travel philosophy to a new level by
> banning passengers from stowing luggage in the hold of its aircraft, a move
> it claims will eliminate the need for check-in desks.

Is this a joke? Such a move will cost them a lot of passengers.

"Jesper Lauridsen" <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message
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>
> Is this a joke? Such a move will cost them a lot of passengers.

They don't seem to care. Michael O'Leary was quoted in the Telegraph as
saying,

"If people feel they must take a lot of luggage, they can fly with our
higher-fare competitors. If they want to fly round Europe with us for £5 or
£10, they will have to do it Ryanair's way."

Nice man :-(

Elaine

On 2004-07-10, Owain <owain41276@stirlingcity.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Ryanair aren't interested in how many passengers they carry, they are
> interested in profit.

No passengers = no profit.