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Old 11th November 2003, 03:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"newsgroup_account" <newsgroup_account@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
news:fctuqv4us85brasq46ft95drg99277713a@...
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> I later heard on the radio news that Maastricht was one of the
> "unspecified destinations in the Netherlands" and that plans for
> scrapping that route, at least, were going ahead. However, I can't
> imagine that it would be as soon as December, especially if they're
> still selling tickets for that destination. If you've already bought
> your ticket I think you'll be fine.


From some of the things that O'Leary said, it is clear that any decision to
close will be made purely on financial grounds, without any concern about
the effect on passengers. As continuing some routes is going to depend on
their performance over the coming months, IMO it is probable that tickets
will be sold right up to the time when a definite closure date is announced.
Obviously, tickets sold for a later date will be refunded, but that will
leave people with the task of finding an alternative route much closer to
the time, when everybody's tickets are dearer.

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Old 11th November 2003, 03:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"nightjar .uk.com>" <nightjar@<insert my surname here> wrote in message
news:3fb0a24f$0$12226$afc38c87@news.easynet.co.uk. ..
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> "newsgroup_account" <newsgroup_account@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
> news:fctuqv4us85brasq46ft95drg99277713a@...
> ...
> > I later heard on the radio news that Maastricht was one of the
> > "unspecified destinations in the Netherlands" and that plans for
> > scrapping that route, at least, were going ahead. However, I can't
> > imagine that it would be as soon as December, especially if they're
> > still selling tickets for that destination. If you've already bought
> > your ticket I think you'll be fine.

>
> From some of the things that O'Leary said, it is clear that any decision to
> close will be made purely on financial grounds, without any concern about
> the effect on passengers. As continuing some routes is going to depend on
> their performance over the coming months, IMO it is probable that tickets
> will be sold right up to the time when a definite closure date is announced.
> Obviously, tickets sold for a later date will be refunded, but that will
> leave people with the task of finding an alternative route much closer to
> the time, when everybody's tickets are dearer.


Which of course creates a self-fulfilling prophecy, people don't buy
tickets in case the route closes before they get to fly and the route closes
because people don't buy tickets. It can't cost much for them to
transfer pax to a nearby airport (Eindhoven or Neiderrhein in this case)
and then transfer them on a bus, but will they?
(no answers are necessary)

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Old 12th November 2003, 04:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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> "newsgroup_account" <newsgroup_account@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
> news:fctuqv4us85brasq46ft95drg99277713a@...
> ...
> > I later heard on the radio news that Maastricht was one of the
> > "unspecified destinations in the Netherlands" and that plans for
> > scrapping that route, at least, were going ahead. However, I can't
> > imagine that it would be as soon as December, especially if they're
> > still selling tickets for that destination. If you've already bought
> > your ticket I think you'll be fine.

>
> From some of the things that O'Leary said, it is clear that any decision to
> close will be made purely on financial grounds, without any concern about
> the effect on passengers. As continuing some routes is going to depend on
> their performance over the coming months, IMO it is probable that tickets
> will be sold right up to the time when a definite closure date is announced.
> Obviously, tickets sold for a later date will be refunded


Which is not enough. They should sell tickets in advance for flights
that will exist. For flights they are not sure about, they should decide
and start selling tickets later.

Regards & X-post, ULF
 
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Old 12th November 2003, 09:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:45:12 +0100, Ulf Kutzner
<kutzu000@mail.zdv.uni-mainz.de> wrote:

>"nightjar
>>
>> "newsgroup_account" <newsgroup_account@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fctuqv4us85brasq46ft95drg99277713a@...
>> ...
>> > I later heard on the radio news that Maastricht was one of the
>> > "unspecified destinations in the Netherlands" and that plans for
>> > scrapping that route, at least, were going ahead. However, I can't
>> > imagine that it would be as soon as December, especially if they're
>> > still selling tickets for that destination. If you've already bought
>> > your ticket I think you'll be fine.

>>
>> From some of the things that O'Leary said, it is clear that any decision to
>> close will be made purely on financial grounds, without any concern about
>> the effect on passengers. As continuing some routes is going to depend on
>> their performance over the coming months, IMO it is probable that tickets
>> will be sold right up to the time when a definite closure date is announced.
>> Obviously, tickets sold for a later date will be refunded

>
>Which is not enough. They should sell tickets in advance for flights
>that will exist. For flights they are not sure about, they should decide
>and start selling tickets later.
>
>Regards & X-post, ULF



LOL this is Ryanair you know. Forget normal business practices.
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Old 12th November 2003, 12:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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In article <3FB20128.E7EEA5AC@mail.zdv.uni-mainz.de>, Ulf Kutzner
<kutzu000@mail.zdv.uni-mainz.de> writes
>Which is not enough. They should sell tickets in advance for flights
>that will exist. For flights they are not sure about, they should decide
>and start selling tickets later.

Michael Leary does just what he wants to and not what he "should" do.
That is the problem with Ryanair.
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