Eastern Europe

Does anyone know of a tour to Poland, Hungary and Czch Republic
(Warsaw, Krakow, Sovakia, Budapest) that does not include a tour of
consentration camps? I am looking for a company that does small
groups. Thanks.

Hi everybody, i'm looking for somebody interested in visiting eastern Europe
by camper, and bycicle.
Please let me know asd soon as possible.
I'm Italian, i'm a 50 years old teacher.
contact me only if you're really interested : nicollin@tin.it
Bye and hope hear you soon
Nino

Greetings, in the month of June me and 3 friends are planning on going on a
trip to eastern europe. Roughly, the route we're planning on doing is,
flying from Dublin to Stanstead, then from Stanstead to Brno (with
Ryanair). From there, a train to Krakow, then to Warsaw. From there, to
Belarus (Brest -> Minsk), then to Moscow via Smolensk, after that to St.
Petersburg. The final leg of the trip will be from there to Tallinn in
Estonia and finally on to Riga in Latvia, where can fly back to London
Stanstead. Ideally we'd like to spend not much more than 4 weeks away.
Does this route seem reasonable, are there any places i'd be advised not
to visit due to safety issues and what not. Also, i can't seem to find
much information on train prices so i don't know how much it is all going
to cost. If you have any advise regarding any part of this trip, please
respond.

"irishtraveller" <wardsean@> wrote in
news:a710ae92bf0ee53dc2364fedb5cc4d32@localhost.ta lkabouttravelling.com:

> Greetings, in the month of June me and 3 friends are planning on going
> on a trip to eastern europe. Roughly, the route we're planning on
> doing is, flying from Dublin to Stanstead, then from Stanstead to Brno
> (with Ryanair). From there, a train to Krakow, then to Warsaw. From
> there, to Belarus (Brest -> Minsk), then to Moscow via Smolensk, after
> that to St. Petersburg. The final leg of the trip will be from there
> to Tallinn in Estonia and finally on to Riga in Latvia, where can fly
> back to London Stanstead. Ideally we'd like to spend not much more
> than 4 weeks away. Does this route seem reasonable, are there any
> places i'd be advised not to visit due to safety issues and what not.
> Also, i can't seem to find much information on train prices so i don't
> know how much it is all going to cost. If you have any advise
> regarding any part of this trip, please respond.
>

other than possible visa problems in Russia (don't recall their EU stand
these days) They can be incredibly stuck in the cold war in regard to
travel

It would be a shame to miss Prague. It is about 2 hours by train or bus from
Brno. I'd cut down on time planned for Minsk and spend it in the Czech
republic instead.
I have no idea what visa will be required for Irish citizens, but be sure to
check with a travel agent and see if you will need to apply in advance to
any of the countries you plan to visit. Visas for Russia continue to be
tricky, and you may have to reserve hotel rooms first in advance.
Expect lower service standards on trains than you may have at home.



"irishtraveller" <wardsean@> wrote in message
news:a710ae92bf0ee53dc2364fedb5cc4d32@localhost.ta lkabouttravelling.com...
> Greetings, in the month of June me and 3 friends are planning on going on
> a
> trip to eastern europe. Roughly, the route we're planning on doing is,
> flying from Dublin to Stanstead, then from Stanstead to Brno (with
> Ryanair). From there, a train to Krakow, then to Warsaw. From there, to
> Belarus (Brest -> Minsk), then to Moscow via Smolensk, after that to St.
> Petersburg. The final leg of the trip will be from there to Tallinn in
> Estonia and finally on to Riga in Latvia, where can fly back to London
> Stanstead. Ideally we'd like to spend not much more than 4 weeks away.
> Does this route seem reasonable, are there any places i'd be advised not
> to visit due to safety issues and what not. Also, i can't seem to find
> much information on train prices so i don't know how much it is all going
> to cost. If you have any advise regarding any part of this trip, please
> respond.
>

"tile" <supertile@libero.it> kirjoitti viestissä
news:Wdx9e.75491$zZ1.2110296@twister1.libero.it...
>
> are you sure there is an airport in BRNO ??
>
Of course there is one.

Deep Foiled Malls wrote:

> Tallin has a nice old town but has waaay too many cloned souvenir
> shops.


Plus which it's the hottest new hen/stag party destination!

--
Best
Greg

irishtraveller wrote:
> Greetings, in the month of June me and 3 friends are planning on going on a
> trip to eastern europe. Roughly, the route we're planning on doing is,
> flying from Dublin to Stanstead, then from Stanstead to Brno (with
> Ryanair). From there, a train to Krakow, then to Warsaw. From there, to
> Belarus (Brest -> Minsk), then to Moscow via Smolensk, after that to St.
> Petersburg. The final leg of the trip will be from there to Tallinn in
> Estonia and finally on to Riga in Latvia, where can fly back to London
> Stanstead. Ideally we'd like to spend not much more than 4 weeks away.
> Does this route seem reasonable, are there any places i'd be advised not
> to visit due to safety issues and what not. Also, i can't seem to find
> much information on train prices so i don't know how much it is all going
> to cost. If you have any advise regarding any part of this trip, please
> respond.
>
Don't go via Minsk - there isn't much to see there and there are
problems with getting a visa. Go via Ukraine: Warsaw - Kiev - Moscow.
Kiev is much more interesting than Minsk (you could also visit Lvov on
the way). From 1.05 till 1.09 EU citizens won't need visas to enter Ukraine.
You should also visit Prague.
Ticket prices:
Brno - Prague - 8 euro
Prague - Krakow - 26,60
Krakow - Warsaw - 20
Warsaw - Kiev - 48
Kiev - Moscow - 40
Moscow - St. Petersburg - 20

Deep Foiled Malls <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in message news:<bm8d615lefell3ntb9i5m4uk508jg764fl@>. ..
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:33:33 -0400, "irishtraveller"
> <wardsean@> wrote:
>
> >Greetings, in the month of June me and 3 friends are planning on going on a
> >trip to eastern europe. Roughly, the route we're planning on doing is,
> >flying from Dublin to Stanstead, then from Stanstead to Brno (with
> >Ryanair). From there, a train to Krakow, then to Warsaw. From there, to
> >Belarus (Brest -> Minsk), then to Moscow via Smolensk, after that to St.
> >Petersburg. The final leg of the trip will be from there to Tallinn in
> >Estonia and finally on to Riga in Latvia, where can fly back to London
> >Stanstead. Ideally we'd like to spend not much more than 4 weeks away.

> Others have mentioned that the Russian visa is difficult (and it is)
> but I would expect the Belarus one to be even harder. The visa process
> is expensive, and time consuming. I would suggest skipping Belarus for
> this reason, as that is what I did.

Belarus has basicly the same visa regulations as Russia, practiced in
a less by-the-book way. Both in Russia and Belarus, you need a
invetation from a hotel in order to get a visa and you have to wait
for days before you pick up your visa in order to not pay an
additional express-fee. Unlike Russia when registering your visa (it
is done for you by your hotel) is to be regarded as your exit permit
from the country, normally noone cares if you register you visa in
Belarus. The tricky thing about Belarus though, is that not many
countrie have an Embassy, making it harder to get a visa (Minsk
International airport probably issue visas on the spot though).

If you hafe come to a point where you feel you want to see Belarus,
you should really do so and Brest and Minsk is an excellent
combination of places to see. In many respects Belarus and Brest
represents the heart of European history of the 20th centrury, a
history that is manifested in a lot of places there for you to see.

Starting with the most recent history, Belarus represents the last
Siviet State in Europe, offering the closest you can come to what a
Soviet Union anno 2005 might would have been like. Collective farms, a
night at the opera for 3 Euros (and then we talk about a standard few
other European cities can offer), Minsk has is probably the most full
blooded Stalin Baroque style city you can find anywhere, for a couple
of Euros you can cross a country bigger than Great Britain virtually
driving in a time machine, as you probably know Brest is the site
where both the Riebenhof-Molotov treaty where signed, where Lenin sent
Lev Trotsky with a blanco apoval to sign anything that would keep the
be'olsheviks in power in 1917 as well as a place where people in USSR
traveled in order to come as far west as they could in Soviet times.
Go to find out why.


> St Peter is almost European, and you will just love it.

What does that mean, assuming that it means anything at all?;)

Jan

Deep Foiled Malls wrote:
> On 21 Apr 2005 13:33:42 -0700, oystein@nettkjenning.com (?ystein)

> >> St Peter is almost European, and you will just love it.
> >
> >What does that mean, assuming that it means anything at all?;)
>
> ...sburg. But I think you knew that!

Sure, what I was thinking of is that it is hardly such a thing as a
"European city";)

Jan