Irish Motorway

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:32:47 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:16:04 +0100, "tim....."
><tims_new_home.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@verizon.not> wrote in message
>>news:cdwuk.137$Wd.122@trnddc01...
>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> I gather that tolls will be collected automatically using windshield
>>> sensors on the Irish M50 road. That seems to work well in the US (and can
>>> bring to mind how much you spend on tolls!). However, I gather that you
>>> can register your car licence plate and that will be read aotomatically
>>> too. I wonder how well it will work tho' there is less variety of course
>>> in Irish plates.
>>
>>Is this a question about the technology? Or are you questioning the honesty
>>of the nationals of a country where the slogan is "vote early and often"?
>>
>>(ITYF that the technology works perfectly well on regulation plates, which
>>unlike in the US, they do have!)
>
>What's a "regulation plate"?

A standardised plate size and content covered by regulations.
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Martin

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:38:01 +0200, "Tim C." <timc@tele2.at> wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:31:58 -0700, Hatunen wrote in post :
><news:sehmb45ubqnjcl19rmk2j0120q0j41tar1@4ax.co m> :
>
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:34:16 GMT, "James Silverton"
>> <not.jim.silverton@verizon.not> wrote:
>>
>>>Hello All!
>>>
>>>I gather that tolls will be collected automatically using windshield
>>>sensors on the Irish M50 road. That seems to work well in the US (and
>>>can bring to mind how much you spend on tolls!). However, I gather that
>>>you can register your car licence plate and that will be read
>>>aotomatically too. I wonder how well it will work tho' there is less
>>>variety of course in Irish plates.
>>
>> I've noticed that Mexican license plates now sport bar codes. Are
>> the Irish likely to do that?
>
>Never. The Irish could never fit a bar into such a small space.

Tagging boots left and right never really worked either.
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Martin

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:07:54 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
<bogus@purr.> wrote:

>>>> I gather that tolls will be collected automatically using windshield
>>>> sensors on the Irish M50 road.
>>> (ITYF that the technology works perfectly well on regulation plates,
>>> which unlike in the US, they do have!)
>> What's a "regulation plate"?
>
>In some places number plates are all issued by a central authority so
>they are completely standard in font, colour and layout. New Zealand
>used that system when I was there.

I thought that was the case in NL too.
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Martin

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:09:31 +0200, "Tim C." <timc@tele2.at> wrote:

>On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:51:55 +0200, Martin wrote in post :
><news:l8bnb4djdvi9elp22g6mp86pbsk334b5t6@4ax.co m> :
>
>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:38:01 +0200, "Tim C." <timc@tele2.at> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:31:58 -0700, Hatunen wrote in post :
>>><news:sehmb45ubqnjcl19rmk2j0120q0j41tar1@4ax.co m> :
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:34:16 GMT, "James Silverton"
>>>> <not.jim.silverton@verizon.not> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hello All!
>>>>>
>>>>>I gather that tolls will be collected automatically using windshield
>>>>>sensors on the Irish M50 road. That seems to work well in the US (and
>>>>>can bring to mind how much you spend on tolls!). However, I gather that
>>>>>you can register your car licence plate and that will be read
>>>>>aotomatically too. I wonder how well it will work tho' there is less
>>>>>variety of course in Irish plates.
>>>>
>>>> I've noticed that Mexican license plates now sport bar codes. Are
>>>> the Irish likely to do that?
>>>
>>>Never. The Irish could never fit a bar into such a small space.
>>
>> Tagging boots left and right never really worked either.
>
> :-)
>as they say here "your right hand is the one with the thumb on the left"

LOL

I bought a pair of allegedly Celtic made sailing shoes in a sale that were
tagged red and green. Both were for left feet.
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Martin

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:29:09 +0200, "Tim C." <timc@tele2.at> wrote:

>On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:23:01 +0200, Martin wrote in post :
><news:nvcnb41qrlqepkl3d3qt7oi33vop74h00j@4ax.co m> :
>
>> I bought a pair of allegedly Celtic made sailing shoes in a sale that were
>> tagged red and green. Both were for left feet.
>
>So you can't even tell whether you're coming or going?

when walking? :o)
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Martin

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:33:04 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
<erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote:

>Tim C.:
>> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:23:01 +0200, Martin wrote in post :
>> <news:nvcnb41qrlqepkl3d3qt7oi33vop74h00j@ > :
>>
>>> I bought a pair of allegedly Celtic made sailing shoes in a sale that were
>>> tagged red and green. Both were for left feet.
>
>Obviously, one is for cases when the left foot is occupied, and the
>other one is for occasions when the left foot is free.
>>
>> So you can't even tell whether you're coming or going?
>
>:-))
>He's probably running in circles, now.

decreasing circles?

Isn't that what RTE is for? :o)
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Martin

"Hatunen" <hatunen@cox.net> wrote in message
news:sehmb45ubqnjcl19rmk2j0120q0j41tar1@...
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:34:16 GMT, "James Silverton"
> <not.jim.silverton@verizon.not> wrote:
>
>>Hello All!
>>
>>I gather that tolls will be collected automatically using windshield
>>sensors on the Irish M50 road. That seems to work well in the US (and
>>can bring to mind how much you spend on tolls!). However, I gather that
>>you can register your car licence plate and that will be read
>>aotomatically too. I wonder how well it will work tho' there is less
>>variety of course in Irish plates.
>
> I've noticed that Mexican license plates now sport bar codes. Are
> the Irish likely to do that?
>

In Britian many police patrol cars are fitted with automatic number plate
recognition cameras with reads the registration number and checks
the police computer to check if its stolen, registered and insured.
This is done in real time so it really shouldnt be a problem for toll
systems.

Keith

tim..... wrote:
> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote in message
> news:6i1n12FojsvqU1@mid....
>> Martin:
>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:32:47 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> wrote:
>> [Toll and licence plates]
>>>> What's a "regulation plate"?
>>> A standardised plate size and content covered by regulations.
>> In that case, I hope they have less standards to choose from than Holland
>> or Germany.
>
> I didn't think that you got any choice in Germany, you simply use the one
> that you are given!
>
> tim
>
>
If you mean the registration number, you certainly can choose a
personalized one (although the area prefix must be valid for the
community where you live.) A lot of people have reg numbers with their
initials and birthdates, or just easy to remember numbers.
It helps living in a small town where the clerks have more time and
are more likely to be friendly and helpful - in fact in my experience,
where I live, they often ask you what number you'd like. In big cities,
they may be less inclined to flip through the lists of available numbers
for you.
You can also get smaller plates for US style license plate holders.

T.

Erick T. Barkhuis wrote:
> Martin:
>> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:07:54 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
>> <bogus@purr.> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I gather that tolls will be collected automatically using
>>>>>> windshield sensors on the Irish M50 road.
>>>>> (ITYF that the technology works perfectly well on regulation plates,
>>>>> which unlike in the US, they do have!)
>>>> What's a "regulation plate"?
>>>
>>> In some places number plates are all issued by a central authority so
>>> they are completely standard in font, colour and layout. New Zealand
>>> used that system when I was there.
>>
>> I thought that was the case in NL too.
>
> In NL, you're supposed to register your car, then go to a little licence
> plate shop close to the local authorities and have plates made. Same in
> Germany. Often, several shops next to each other offer this service.
> These shops make plates according to the standards.
>

Something I meant to ask about NL plates, isn't the registration
assigned permanently when the car is registered for the first time like
in the UK?

T.

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:51:33 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
<erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote:

>tim.....:
>> "Tom P" <tombnbnb@freenet.dd> wrote in message
>> news:6i2pdtFok3v3U1@mid....
>>> tim..... wrote:
>>>> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote in message
>>>> news:6i1n12FojsvqU1@mid....
>>>>> Martin:
>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:32:47 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> [Toll and licence plates]
>>>>>>> What's a "regulation plate"?
>>>>>> A standardised plate size and content covered by regulations.
>>>>> In that case, I hope they have less standards to choose from than
>>>>> Holland or Germany.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't think that you got any choice in Germany, you simply use the
>>>> one that you are given!
>
>>>>
>>> If you mean the registration number, you certainly can choose a
>
>> No, I meant the plate.
>
>> I have no personal experience but I was told that the "registration
>> office" made the plate up for you when they allocate the number and that
>> no-one else can make them
>
>Well, that's not the case.
>Go ahead, and have a look in the vincinity of any Verkehrsamt in
>Germany that issues licences. You'll certainly find several licence
>plate print shops that will happily make your plates....or any fancy
>ones to take home.
>You want a plate saying "RTE MBR#1"? I'm pretty sure they'll make it
>for you.

You said the same about Dutch plates. Only the ones made by the companies on the
list I posted are valid.
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Martin