Many Dutch tourists denied entry to US

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:56:28 +0200, Martin wrote:

> Children are supposed to have their own passports in the EU, too?

Supposed to yes, I think, but if they haven't needed the passports for a
while, they'll hardly know.

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Tim C.

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:40:17 +0200, "Tim C." <timchallenger.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:56:28 +0200, Martin wrote:
>
>> Children are supposed to have their own passports in the EU, too?
>
>Supposed to yes, I think, but if they haven't needed the passports for a
>while, they'll hardly know.

If they were born after 5 October 1998 they will.
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Martin

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:47:07 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Tim C. <timchallenger.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:56:28 +0200, Martin wrote:
>>
>> > Children are supposed to have their own passports in the EU, too?
>>
>> Supposed to yes, I think, but if they haven't needed the passports for a
>> while, they'll hardly know.
>
>Countries like the UK and Ireland (probably elsewhere) now only issue
>separate passports, but children who were already on their parents'
>passports can usually still travel in Europe (not just including EEA).
>I'd think it would be a good idea to check with the airline etc.

It was remarkably difficult to find the info about the transition period. No
mention of it on any UK govt. site that I could find. It was the result of an EU
directive that was some how supposed to prevent divorced parents snatching kids
and disappearing abroad with them
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Martin

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:47:07 +0100, d4g4h4.ukDavid Horne, _the_
chancellor wrote:

> Countries like the UK and Ireland (probably elsewhere) now only issue
> separate passports, but children who were already on their parents'
> passports can usually still travel in Europe (not just including EEA).

Here they've been issuing separate passports for over 10 years, which means
any child on a parent's passport will be out of date anyway.

--
Tim C.

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:26:50 +0200, "Tim C." <timchallenger.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:47:07 +0100, d4g4h4.ukDavid Horne, _the_
>chancellor wrote:
>
>> Countries like the UK and Ireland (probably elsewhere) now only issue
>> separate passports, but children who were already on their parents'
>> passports can usually still travel in Europe (not just including EEA).
>
>Here they've been issuing separate passports for over 10 years, which means
>any child on a parent's passport will be out of date anyway.

In a few months the same will be true in UK.
--

Martin

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:35:34 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Tim C. <timchallenger.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:47:07 +0100, d4g4h4.ukDavid Horne, _the_
>> chancellor wrote:
>>
>> > Countries like the UK and Ireland (probably elsewhere) now only issue
>> > separate passports, but children who were already on their parents'
>> > passports can usually still travel in Europe (not just including EEA).
>>
>> Here they've been issuing separate passports for over 10 years, which means
>> any child on a parent's passport will be out of date anyway.
>
>There's no uniformity on this

There is an EU directive.

>- Ireland only stopped issuing passports
>including children in October 2004, and those are valid until 2014.

The open border between UK and Ireland is about to be closed.

>But
>I don't think there's anything stopping another EEA country from not
>accepting such a passport. Indeed, the Czech Republic and Estonia don't,
>according to the Irish Passport information website.
>
>It would seem good advice for someone with a child on their passport to
>double check everything prior to travel.

Especially that you didn;t forget one or more children in a motorway cafe on the
way to the airport.
--

Martin

On Jul 25, 1:16 pm, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:35:34 +0100, d4g....uk (David Horne, _the_
>
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >Tim C. <timchallen....uk> wrote:
>
> >> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:47:07 +0100, d4g....ukDavid Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor wrote:
>
> >> > Countries like the UK and Ireland (probably elsewhere) now only issue
> >> > separate passports, but children who were already on their parents'
> >> > passports can usually still travel in Europe (not just including EEA).
>
> >> Here they've been issuing separate passports for over 10 years, which means
> >> any child on a parent's passport will be out of date anyway.
>
> >There's no uniformity on this
>
> There is an EU directive.

And the Dutch aways obey EU directives, right?

B;

"Alfred Molon" <alfred_molonm> skrev i meddelandet
news:MPG.22f3f2926b22548898bda4@news.supernews.com ...
> In article <1i2rdzel39ox8$.16ls4mhdiidmf.dlg@40tude.net>, Frank
> Hucklenbroich says...
>
>> Now since about two years instead of the "Kinderausweis" they have
>> seperate
>> Passports for cilhdren "Kinderpass"). These have photo and are
>> machine-readable and look almost the same like an adult passport.
>
> Well no. My daughter's passport (she is 5 months old) looks exactly like
> mine. I didn't notice any difference.
> --
Including picture ? :-)

"Alfred Molon" <alfred_molonm> kirjoitti
viestissä:MPG.22f3f2926b22548898bda4@news.supernew s.com...
> In article <1i2rdzel39ox8$.16ls4mhdiidmf.dlg@40tude.net>, Frank
> Hucklenbroich says...
>
>> Now since about two years instead of the "Kinderausweis" they have
>> seperate
>> Passports for cilhdren "Kinderpass"). These have photo and are
>> machine-readable and look almost the same like an adult passport.
>
> Well no. My daughter's passport (she is 5 months old) looks exactly like
> mine. I didn't notice any difference.
> --
That's funny. There should be some differences though.

"Lennart Petersen" <lennart.petersen@swipnet.se> kirjoitti
viestissä:h4lik.1139$U5.867@newsb.telia.net...
>
>
> "Alfred Molon" <alfred_molonm> skrev i meddelandet
> news:MPG.22f3f2926b22548898bda4@news.supernews.com ...
>> In article <1i2rdzel39ox8$.16ls4mhdiidmf.dlg@40tude.net>, Frank
>> Hucklenbroich says...
>>
>>> Now since about two years instead of the "Kinderausweis" they have
>>> seperate
>>> Passports for cilhdren "Kinderpass"). These have photo and are
>>> machine-readable and look almost the same like an adult passport.
>>
>> Well no. My daughter's passport (she is 5 months old) looks exactly like
>> mine. I didn't notice any difference.
>> --
> Including picture ? :-)
That's impossible. The camera lense fell apart when Al was pictured. Too
much is simply too much.