Europe Trip-Mid Aug

Hallo,

I'll be traveling throughout Europe mid August through late Sept. A
few of the stops include Spondon UK, Perstorp Sweden , Lanaken Belgium
and Budapest.

I've never been to any of these locales before, though I have traveled
throughout Europe pretty extensively (Spain, France, Andorra, Italy).

Does anyone have any thoughts on the above 4 sites? Budapest should
be a hoot from what I heard, but I don't have a clue about the first
3.

thks

On Jul 18, 7:16 pm, Kamakazee <mscotts...@**********> wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I'll be traveling throughout Europe mid August through late Sept. A
> few of the stops include Spondon UK, Perstorp Sweden , Lanaken Belgium
> and Budapest.
>
> I've never been to any of these locales before, though I have traveled
> throughout Europe pretty extensively (Spain, France, Andorra, Italy).
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on the above 4 sites? Budapest should
> be a hoot from what I heard, but I don't have a clue about the first
> 3.
>
> thks

Didn't you go to Budapest last autumn? ;)

Spondon is a suburb of Derby, a rather dull industrial city in the
north of England. However, it's located within easy driving distance
of some terrific wilderness areas in the Peak District and Derbyshire
Dales as well as quaint small towns like Matlock and historic sites
like Chatsworth and Haddon Hall. So, perhaps not a magnetic place in
itself but a good base.

Perstorp looks to me like it's not too far from Malmo, one of the more
interesting cities in Sweden - and actually that means Copenhagen,
which for my money is one of the loveliest small cities in Europe, is
easy too. The historic city of Helsingborg is also close by.

No idea about Lanaken, I'm afraid. The nearest big place, Maastricht,
struck me as unexciting.

In Budapest I strongly recommend the badly-named House of Terror if
you're interested in recent history.

On Jul 18, 2:39 pm, barn...@barnabypage.com wrote:
> On Jul 18, 7:16 pm, Kamakazee <mscotts...@**********> wrote:
>
> > Hallo,
>
> > I'll be traveling throughout Europe mid August through late Sept.  A
> > few of the stops include Spondon UK, Perstorp Sweden , Lanaken Belgium
> > and Budapest.
>
> > I've never been to any of these locales before, though I have traveled
> > throughout Europe pretty extensively (Spain, France, Andorra, Italy).
>
> > Does anyone have any thoughts on the above 4 sites?  Budapest should
> > be a hoot from what I heard, but I don't have a clue about the first
> > 3.
>
> > thks
>
> Didn't you go to Budapest last autumn? ;)
>
> Spondon is a suburb of Derby, a rather dull industrial city in the
> north of England. However, it's located within easy driving distance
> of some terrific wilderness areas in the Peak District and Derbyshire
> Dales as well as quaint small towns like Matlock and historic sites
> like Chatsworth and Haddon Hall. So, perhaps not a magnetic place in
> itself but a good base.
>
> Perstorp looks to me like it's not too far from Malmo, one of the more
> interesting cities in Sweden - and actually that means Copenhagen,
> which for my money is one of the loveliest small cities in Europe, is
> easy too. The historic city of Helsingborg is also close by.
>
> No idea about Lanaken, I'm afraid. The nearest big place, Maastricht,
> struck me as unexciting.
>
> In Budapest I strongly recommend the badly-named House of Terror if
> you're interested in recent history.

Spondon is a suburb of Derby, a rather dull industrial city in the
north of England. However, it's located within easy driving distance
of some terrific wilderness areas in the Peak District and Derbyshire
Dales as well as quaint small towns like Matlock and historic sites
like Chatsworth and Haddon Hall. So, perhaps not a magnetic place in
itself but a good base.

I will be in Spondon on a Mon-Wed, flying into Manchester and driving
to Spondon. Will this most likely be fatal? I've budgeted 2 hours,
workable? Is there a train I could take?


Perstorp looks to me like it's not too far from Malmo, one of the
more
interesting cities in Sweden - and actually that means Copenhagen,
which for my money is one of the loveliest small cities in Europe, is
easy too. The historic city of Helsingborg is also close by.

I fly into Copenhagen and drive to Perstorp. The same questions
apply, can it be done safely? Are there any trains?


No idea about Lanaken, I'm afraid. The nearest big place, Maastricht,
struck me as unexciting.

I fly into Maastricht, but apparently it's only 10 mins from Lanaken
so I don't imagine I could get that lost.

I am planning on driving from Lanaken to Frankfurt, a 3 hour, cross
country trip. The flight is an hour and by the time I make it to and
from the airports I figure just drive. Are there trains available for
this leg?

In Budapest I strongly recommend the badly-named House of Terror if
you're interested in recent history.

Possibly. I'm there 3 days and I'm desparately trying to convince my
better half to meet me there and take a jaunt to Vienna. I hear it's
maybe a half hour away. Are you familar with the "speed trains"? If
so, do they run from Barcelona to Hungary?

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:19:42 -0700, yeadeagisss
<dai/gea/isss/0nne/3hrree/zer0/zer0_@_geea/maiil.c0mx> wrote:

>Kamakazee wrote:
>> On Jul 18, 4:45 pm, yeadeagisss <dai/gea/isss/0nne/3hrree/zer0/
>> zer0_@_geea/maiil.c0mx> wrote:
>>
>>>There are trains from Maastrict to Frankfurt, but not direct, non-stop
>>>services. You'll change at least once, and that's on the utterly
>>>non-intuitive route via Utrecht. Some routes feature several changes,
>>>which can be rather tiring.
>>
>>
>> It would be the largest amount of driving on the trip but I think I'm
>> up to it. I note from the map it would take me through "Nottingham",
>
>You note from the wrong map. Maastricht to Frankfurt goes nowhere near
>Nottingham, England. The only time you'll be near Nottingham is when
>you're in Spondon.
>
>>>>Are you familar with the "speed trains"? If
>>>>so, do they run from Barcelona to Hungary?
>>>
>>>There is no direct high-speed train service from Barcelona to Budapest.
>>>It's a very long and tiring voyage via train, with a minimum of three,
>>>and as many as eight changes.
>>
>> Sounds like it's out of the question. She has a tolerance of no more
>> than 4 hours sitting at one time.
>
>You sure you meant "Barcelona" and not "Vienna?"
>
>Hint: Barcelona is in Spain. Vienna is in Austria.

Your post should have had SPOILER in the subject.
--

Martin

On Jul 19, 7:04 am, "Mike....." <mikexcloth...@freedomnames.co.uk>
wrote:
> Following up to Kamakazee
>
> > I will be in Spondon on a Mon-Wed, flying into Manchester and driving
> > to Spondon. Will this most likely be fatal?  I've budgeted 2 hours,
> > workable?  Is there a train I could take?
>
> you should be able to drive in two hours, I dont see the point in taking a
> train as the dales etc are much easier to explore by combination of
> car/walk.
> --
> Mike........
> remove clothing to email

Yeah, I'm pretty convinced I'll do the driving. Particularly since no
foriegn language will create additional hurdles on this leg fo the
trip. My notes reflect that it's 88 miles, are these roads "highways"
in the sense we have them in the states?
Also, I'll fly out of Manchester to Copenhagen that Weds, is there
still a 2 hour early arrival requirement even though these are EU
countries?

Thks again.

On Jul 19, 6:13 am, "Mike....." <mikexcloth...@freedomnames.co.uk>
wrote:
> Following up to Kamakazee
>
> >  include Spondon UK,
>
> Spondon, in Derbyshire?
> --
> Mike........
> remove clothing to email

I assume so, yes, though my notes say "Derby"

On 7/20/2008 7:36 AM Kamakazee ignored two million years of human
evolution to write:

> Pull your head out and quit burning my time, if you can be so kind.

Take your own advice, peanut. This isn't paid advice, and you're not
obligated to use it. If you want to see what the various roads in
Europe look like, open a couple of browser windows and use Google Maps
(maps.google.com) to compare overhead views of the road networks you're
used to with the routes you're planning to use overseas. You'll find
more similarities than differences along the main routes (other than
the obvious difference of left-hand road rules in the UK).

On 7/20/2008 7:50 PM Kamakazee ignored two million years of human
evolution to write:

> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, yod-yog+ais <"d?g
> +s=1ne3.ree,zero.null=0="@=gh_mhaei|l.com> wrote:
>> On 7/20/2008 7:34 AM Kamakazee ignored two million years of human
>> evolution to write:
>>
>>> And are you saying that it's not possible to fly from Barcelona to
>>> Hungary?
>> Where did I claim that? I simply stated the truth: there is no
>> continuous high-speed train service between Barcelona and, say,
>> Budapest. Such a route requires a long train voyage with multiple
>> changes.
>
> You claimed something along the line that it was impossible to remain
> seated for 4 hours on such a trip.

I never claimed such a thing. I stated (correctly) that there is no
single easy way to do high-speed rail travel between Barcelona and
Budapest. It requires several changes of trains. In between, it's
nearly a given that there will be travel segments of at least four
hours; the entire voyage takes more than a day. It's the kind of
trip that requires a bit of planning, including purchasing seat
reservations. These days, it's easier to fly instead, but that may
change in the near future.

On Jul 21, 1:01 am, "Mike....." <mikexcloth...@freedomnames.co.uk>
wrote:
> Following up to Kamakazee
>
> > are these roads "highways"
> > in the sense we have them in the states?
>
> what is the US sense of "highway"?
> --
> Mike........
> remove clothing to email

Well I'm in Texas, so a typical highway here is 5 or 6 lanes, with
SUVs going apprx 70-80 mph!

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:05:05 -0700 (PDT), Kamakazee wrote:

> On Jul 21, 1:01 am, "Mike....." <mikexcloth...@freedomnames.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Following up to Kamakazee
>>
>>> are these roads "highways"
>>> in the sense we have them in the states?
>>
>> what is the US sense of "highway"?
>> --
>> Mike........
>> remove clothing to email
>
> Well I'm in Texas, so a typical highway here is 5 or 6 lanes, with
> SUVs going apprx 70-80 mph!

In that case, no. :-)
2-3 lanes of Fiat 500s doing 90-100mph.

--
Tim C.