20 Euros Ice Cream in Rome

On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 22:40:33 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>tile <supertile@libero.it> wrote:
>
>> "poldy" <poldy@kfu.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>> news:poldy-314FC1.12395007042008@newsgroups....
>> > In article <47f9f4fb$0$17949$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it>,
>> > "tile" <supertile@libero.it> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> the main problem is that foreigners do not realize that taking things at
>> >> the counter or sitting
>> >> makes a big difference in price
>> >> Unluckily.. while prices at the counter are fixed in Italy prices for
>> >> service are free.
>> >> I have seen bottles of beer sold for 50 eur in Venice. but with the
>> >> music..
>> >
>> >
>> > You mean there's no cover charge or no gratuity expected for being
>> > served at the counter?
>>
>> no cover charge and no gratuity is expected
>
>It also depends where you sit. Some restaurants in Italy, Spain etc.
>will charge more for sitting outside. In summer, this can be an issue,
>as you generally don't want to be inside IME. Mixi refuses to loan his
>air conditioner units to them.

When I first moved to the Netherlands two of us sat at a table outside what we
thought was a hotel/restauarnt but was in fact at that time the house of the
Baron of Wassenaar. If we hadn't asked "the waiter" for a menu, I think we could
have spent the whole afternoon drinking there. I did something similar in Italy
ten years ago but we were rumbled by the owner, just as we were complaining
that the service was as bad as in NL.
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Martin

"Martin" <me@address.invalid> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 22:36:56 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:26:23 +0200, "tile" <supertile@libero.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >try to sit in one of the bars in venice.. and you will see wht prices
>>> >they
>>> >have.
>>> >normally in every place. you sit you order and you pay when yr order
>>> >arrives.
>>> >normally prices are shown outside. or on each table
>>> >
>>> >the law says :
>>> >Outside the bar or restuarant and on each table.
>>> >
>>> >I was overcherged in verona. I refused to pay and called Police.
>>> >I had to pay.. but the owner got a nice fine. He did not have prices on
>>> >tables and outside.
>>> >
>>> >Of course. it takes nerves time and knowledge of language. But
>>> >sometimes too
>>> >much is too much.
>>> >
>>>
>>> I'm no stranger to Italy. I've never been overcharged in Italy.
>>
>>On our last trip to Italy, we were both overcharged and undercharged
>>several times. I pointed it out in either type of case, and attributed
>>it purely to carelessness- it certainly evened out. Still, for a week
>>long trip, that's still pretty careless in our general experience of
>>travel abroad. Maybe just a Sardinian thing...
>
> in Italy, I have often been not only undercharged but given drinks -
> grappa and
> limoncello - free after the meal after the bill has been paid.
> --
>
> Martin

this is normal.. lemoncello or grappa or another drink.
good for digestion they say
free of charge
>

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:06:55 +0200, "tile" <supertile@libero.it> wrote:

>
>"Martin" <me@address.invalid> ha scritto nel messaggio
>news:o45lv39t0178fkeh2as3bq69h33bed6anl@.. .
>> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 22:36:56 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>>>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:26:23 +0200, "tile" <supertile@libero.it> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >try to sit in one of the bars in venice.. and you will see wht prices
>>>> >they
>>>> >have.
>>>> >normally in every place. you sit you order and you pay when yr order
>>>> >arrives.
>>>> >normally prices are shown outside. or on each table
>>>> >
>>>> >the law says :
>>>> >Outside the bar or restuarant and on each table.
>>>> >
>>>> >I was overcherged in verona. I refused to pay and called Police.
>>>> >I had to pay.. but the owner got a nice fine. He did not have prices on
>>>> >tables and outside.
>>>> >
>>>> >Of course. it takes nerves time and knowledge of language. But
>>>> >sometimes too
>>>> >much is too much.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I'm no stranger to Italy. I've never been overcharged in Italy.
>>>
>>>On our last trip to Italy, we were both overcharged and undercharged
>>>several times. I pointed it out in either type of case, and attributed
>>>it purely to carelessness- it certainly evened out. Still, for a week
>>>long trip, that's still pretty careless in our general experience of
>>>travel abroad. Maybe just a Sardinian thing...
>>
>> in Italy, I have often been not only undercharged but given drinks -
>> grappa and
>> limoncello - free after the meal after the bill has been paid.

>this is normal.. lemoncello or grappa or another drink.
>good for digestion they say
>free of charge

Complete bottles of both?
--

Martin

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:35:03 +0100, Mike..... wrote:

> Following up to d4g4h4.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
>>>> "Some restaurants in Italy, Spain etc. will charge more for sitting
>>>> outside. In summer, this can be an issue, as you generally don't want to
>>>> be inside IME. "
>>>
>>> why is that an issue?
>>
>> Because you get charged more. I thought that was bleeding obvious.
>
> was is that an "issue"?

For those on a budget it could make a difference.

--
Tim C.

"tile" <supertile@libero.it> wrote in message
news:47fb0b96$0$4794$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it. ..
>
> "Martin" <me@address.invalid> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:o45lv39t0178fkeh2as3bq69h33bed6anl@...
>> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 22:36:56 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>>>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:26:23 +0200, "tile" <supertile@libero.it> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >try to sit in one of the bars in venice.. and you will see wht prices
>>>> >they
>>>> >have.
>>>> >normally in every place. you sit you order and you pay when yr order
>>>> >arrives.
>>>> >normally prices are shown outside. or on each table
>>>> >
>>>> >the law says :
>>>> >Outside the bar or restuarant and on each table.
>>>> >
>>>> >I was overcherged in verona. I refused to pay and called Police.
>>>> >I had to pay.. but the owner got a nice fine. He did not have prices
>>>> >on
>>>> >tables and outside.
>>>> >
>>>> >Of course. it takes nerves time and knowledge of language. But
>>>> >sometimes too
>>>> >much is too much.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I'm no stranger to Italy. I've never been overcharged in Italy.
>>>
>>>On our last trip to Italy, we were both overcharged and undercharged
>>>several times. I pointed it out in either type of case, and attributed
>>>it purely to carelessness- it certainly evened out. Still, for a week
>>>long trip, that's still pretty careless in our general experience of
>>>travel abroad. Maybe just a Sardinian thing...
>>
>> in Italy, I have often been not only undercharged but given drinks -
>> grappa and
>> limoncello - free after the meal after the bill has been paid.
>> --
>>
>> Martin
>
> this is normal.. lemoncello or grappa or another drink.
> good for digestion they say
> free of charge

I quite like Hostaria Nerone near the Colosseum in Rome. Each time we went
everything seemed cheaper per unit. Mind you, the three of us were ordering
platters of offal, drinking buckets of wine and entertaining the owners'
children while the adults ate after closing time. They asked if we'd rather
have a free carafe instead of the limoncello.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore

"Mike....." <mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote in message
news:93bepthspu67.hizxde1ulvgx$.dlg@40tude.net...
> Following up to tile
>
>> this is normal.. lemoncello or grappa or another drink.
>> good for digestion they say
>> free of charge
>
> our local italian (run by spaniards) here in London often brings a free
> brandy at the end of the meal. As you say its common in Italy.

I've been offered an after-meal brandy only in Spanish restaurants (as in
cuisine; I've never been to Spain). And it's always been Spanish brandy,
even in Cambodia.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore

Am Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:09:49 -0700 schrieb poldy:

> There's a place near the Trevi fountains, which got reviewed well in the
> usual guide books.

We've been to that very place (by chance) in October '07. I can really
recommend it, they have lots of different ice creams and you don't pay more
than at any "normal" ice cream parlour in italy. They also do small snacks
like sandwiches and pizza. Nice place.

Regards,

Frank

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:55:05 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@> wrote:
>
>> Am Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:44:53 -0700 (PDT) schrieb ts345.team@:
>>
>> > That IS correct,
>> > 90 EUROS = 135 USDollars, for: 4 ice cream cones with 2 scoops each,
>> > plus a small cup with one scoop, plus a small slice of tiramisu.
>>
>> Wow, thats really a lot.
>>
>> We did stop and have ice cream right at the Fontana di Trevi and were
>> surprised that it was rather cheap there (theres an ice-cream-parlour right
>> at the fountain). Big nice place.
>>
>> Then again we got fleeced having lunch near the Vatican (payed about 100
>> EUR for two very small slices of pizza and some noodles).
>
>Didn't it have the price? Even in Venice, which is notoriously more
>expensive than most of Italy, we never managed to get anywhere near that
>for a full lunch or dinner for two, including drinks.

Those who get fleeced subsidise the rest of us.
--

Martin

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:54:17 +0100, "William Black" <william.black@.uk>
wrote:

>
>"a.spencer3" <a.spencer3@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>news:S5IKj.44429$Ge4.42086@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>>
>
>>
>> Does anyone know the current prices in St. Mark's Square, Venice?
>>
>
>Excessive.
>
>I got hit for about £5 a cup for coffee.
>
>But who goes to St Mark's Square and doesn't sit and have a coffee.

Us.

>
>You can't go home and say "Well we went all that way, had a look, but
>didn't have a coffee because it was too expensive..."

Nobody has ever asked us if we had coffee in St Mark's Square.
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Martin

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:04:13 GMT, "a.spencer3" <a.spencer3@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
>"William Black" <william.black@.uk> wrote in message
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>>
>> "a.spencer3" <a.spencer3@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:S5IKj.44429$Ge4.42086@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > Does anyone know the current prices in St. Mark's Square, Venice?
>> >
>>
>> Excessive.
>>
>> I got hit for about £5 a cup for coffee.
>>
>> But who goes to St Mark's Square and doesn't sit and have a coffee.
>>
>> You can't go home and say "Well we went all that way, had a look, but
>> didn't have a coffee because it was too expensive..."
>>
>>
>
>That's livable with - thought it might be more.
>We honeymooned there, sat amidst the violins, and the then bill came to more
>than I had - I had to leave my wife as hostage while I tracked down a friend
>in the Square for more cash!
>We're about to go back next month for our Ruby and have to repeat the
>experience - minus the hostage bit!

Are you expecting Ruby to be still waiting for you?
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Martin