Plan proposed to have fingerprints taken

> The scheme, which must be approved by all 27 EU governments before it
> can come into force in 2013 as proposed, has been criticised by civil
> rights groups.

It's not a done deal. It's a plan.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:25:13 -0600, "Pat" <chime@clock.com> wrote:

>
>> The scheme, which must be approved by all 27 EU governments before it
>> can come into force in 2013 as proposed, has been criticised by civil
>> rights groups.
>
>It's not a done deal. It's a plan.

It won't worry the Spaniards. They all have their FPs taken when they
reach the age of consent.

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:22:20 +0000, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Tim C. <tim.challenger@aon.at> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:25:13 -0600, "Pat" <chime@clock.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> The scheme, which must be approved by all 27 EU governments before it
>> >> can come into force in 2013 as proposed, has been criticised by civil
>> >> rights groups.
>> >
>> >It's not a done deal. It's a plan.
>>
>> It won't worry the Spaniards. They all have their FPs taken when they
>> reach the age of consent.
>
>Why would it worry them anyway- it's not them who'll have their
>fingerprints taken.

I can't see the original post. What was it about?
Visitors within or from outside the EU?

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4.uk> skrev i meddelandet
news:1icclyg.4h6iy3sd73wmN%d4g4h4.uk...
> Tim C. <tim.challenger@aon.at> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:22:20 +0000, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Tim C. <tim.challenger@aon.at> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:25:13 -0600, "Pat" <chime@clock.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> The scheme, which must be approved by all 27 EU governments before
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> can come into force in 2013 as proposed, has been criticised by
>> >> >> civil
>> >> >> rights groups.
>> >> >
>> >> >It's not a done deal. It's a plan.
>> >>
>> >> It won't worry the Spaniards. They all have their FPs taken when they
>> >> reach the age of consent.
>> >
>> >Why would it worry them anyway- it's not them who'll have their
>> >fingerprints taken.
>>
>> I can't see the original post. What was it about?
>> Visitors within or from outside the EU?
>
> It's for non-EU (and I presume EEA) citizens entering the EU.
>
I would guess that at least Schengen countries like Norway,Iceland must be
excluded from the requirement.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:38:11 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
<lennart.petersen@swipnet.se> wrote:

>
>
>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4.uk> skrev i meddelandet
>news:1icclyg.4h6iy3sd73wmN%d4g4h4.uk.. .
>> Tim C. <tim.challenger@aon.at> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:22:20 +0000, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne,
>>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>>
>>> >Tim C. <tim.challenger@aon.at> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:25:13 -0600, "Pat" <chime@clock.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> The scheme, which must be approved by all 27 EU governments before
>>> >> >> it
>>> >> >> can come into force in 2013 as proposed, has been criticised by
>>> >> >> civil
>>> >> >> rights groups.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >It's not a done deal. It's a plan.
>>> >>
>>> >> It won't worry the Spaniards. They all have their FPs taken when they
>>> >> reach the age of consent.
>>> >
>>> >Why would it worry them anyway- it's not them who'll have their
>>> >fingerprints taken.
>>>
>>> I can't see the original post. What was it about?
>>> Visitors within or from outside the EU?
>>
>> It's for non-EU (and I presume EEA) citizens entering the EU.
>>
>I would guess that at least Schengen countries like Norway,Iceland must be
>excluded from the requirement.
>

It isn't a requirement, it's more of a rumour designed to upset Americans.
--

Martin

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:44:36 +0000, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:


>> > It's for non-EU (and I presume EEA) citizens entering the EU.
>> >
>> I would guess that at least Schengen countries like Norway,Iceland must be
>> excluded from the requirement.
>
>I would expect this to have less to do with schengen, but with EEA
>status. However, if Norway doesn't like the idea of fingerprinting all
>non-EEA tourists, what then?

They won't do it? :o)
--

Martin

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:54:19 +0000, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:44:36 +0000, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> > It's for non-EU (and I presume EEA) citizens entering the EU.
>> >> >
>> >> I would guess that at least Schengen countries like Norway,Iceland must be
>> >> excluded from the requirement.
>> >
>> >I would expect this to have less to do with schengen, but with EEA
>> >status. However, if Norway doesn't like the idea of fingerprinting all
>> >non-EEA tourists, what then?
>>
>> They won't do it? :o)
>
>Exactly! Which will make their Schengen agreement pointless! :)

There isn't a Schengen agreement on finger printing.
--

Martin

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:00:47 +0000, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:54:19 +0000, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:44:36 +0000, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
>> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> > It's for non-EU (and I presume EEA) citizens entering the EU.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> I would guess that at least Schengen countries like Norway,Iceland
>> >> >> must be excluded from the requirement.
>> >> >
>> >> >I would expect this to have less to do with schengen, but with EEA
>> >> >status. However, if Norway doesn't like the idea of fingerprinting all
>> >> >non-EEA tourists, what then?
>> >>
>> >> They won't do it? :o)
>> >
>> >Exactly! Which will make their Schengen agreement pointless! :)
>>
>> There isn't a Schengen agreement on finger printing.
>
>Yes, but if Norway doesn't fingerprint these dangerous non-EEA citizens,
>then _if_ other countries want to do so, they'll have to check people
>coming from Norway on the basis of their nationality. Which renders one
>of the points of Schengen moot...

By 2014 it will be on the spot DNA testing.
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Martin