How Italy's 'clothes system' works

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:41:17 +0200, Magda <12@34.56> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:06:49 +0200, in .europe, B Vaughan<me@>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:03:26 +0100, The Reid
> ... <mikereidclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
> ...
> ... >Following up to Tim C. <tim.challenger@aon.at> wrote:
> ... >
> ... >>> It's only a few empty-headed people in
> ... >>>Italy[*] who judge other people's worth by their wardrobe.
> ... >>
> ... >>
> ... >>[*] Replace Italy with the country of your choice.
> ... >
> ... >to be honest, of the countries I've been to, Italy seems *very*
> ... >conscious of dress. I reckon its much more common there that a lot of
> ... >countries. That's my impression.
> ...
> ... There are some very elegant and fashion-concious people in Italy. (The
> ... two things are quite different.) Much more so in the cities than in
> ... the countryside. Where I live, I sometimes see people out shopping in
> ... their bathrobe and slippers and many people buy all their clothes at
> ... the weekly market.
>
>When I was living in Perugia I would see women wearing skirts, stilettos and fur coats
>shopping for meat & fruit/veg at the street market. Granted, it was a very long time
>ago...

35 years ago I recall seeing women dressed in a similar manner, but without
anything under the fur coats soliciting on the hard shoulder of the autostrada
near Rome.
--

Martin

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:47:50 +0200, in .europe, Martin <me@address.invalid>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:39:59 +0200, Magda <12@34.56> wrote:
...
... >On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:06:50 +0200, in .europe, B Vaughan<me@>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ... On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:20:22 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
... > ...
... > ... >The shirts I bought in an expensive shop in Milan were probably the poorest
... > ... >quality I have bought anywhere.
... > ...
... > ... I have also found the quality of clothes made in Italy to be a bit
... > ... substandard at times. My husband bought a rather expensive shirt whose
... >
... >Does the shirt have name, address & social security number?
...
... Are you confusing the man with his clothes?

Barbara certainly is.

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:06:23 +0200, Magda <12@34.56> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:47:50 +0200, in .europe, Martin <me@address.invalid>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:39:59 +0200, Magda <12@34.56> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:06:50 +0200, in .europe, B Vaughan<me@>
> ... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> ... >
> ... > ... On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:20:22 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
> ... > ...
> ... > ... >The shirts I bought in an expensive shop in Milan were probably the poorest
> ... > ... >quality I have bought anywhere.
> ... > ...
> ... > ... I have also found the quality of clothes made in Italy to be a bit
> ... > ... substandard at times. My husband bought a rather expensive shirt whose
> ... >
> ... >Does the shirt have name, address & social security number?
> ...
> ... Are you confusing the man with his clothes?
>
>Barbara certainly is.

I'm sure Barbara knows the difference.
--

Martin

Following up to B Vaughan<me@> wrote:

>There's no reason to be tolerant of a superficial and silly analysis
>of Italian culture written by an non-Italian author.

hey, dont put yourself down so hard! :-)
--
Mike
(remove clothing to email)

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:28:45 +0200, B Vaughan<me@> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:50:22 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>>35 years ago I recall seeing women dressed in a similar manner, but without
>>anything under the fur coats soliciting on the hard shoulder of the autostrada
>>near Rome.
>
>Global warming has put an end to that.

It was the police fining truckers for stopping on the hard shoulder that lost
them all their customers, not global warming.
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Martin

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:57:29 +0200, in gossip.celebrities, Tim C.
<tim.challenger@aon.at> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... Following up to B Vaughan<me@> :
...
... > It's only a few empty-headed people in
... >Italy[*] who judge other people's worth by their wardrobe.
...
...
...[*] Replace Italy with the country of your choice.

The planet is packed full with such countries.

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:12:29 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne) wrote:

>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>[]
>> The shirts I bought in an expensive shop in Milan were probably the poorest
>> quality I have bought anywhere.
>
>Then again, the shirt and belt I bought at an airport in Rome in the
>early 90s lasted for _years_. Among the better purchases I've ever made,
>as clothes go!

and a belt I bought for sod all from a man outside the cathedral in Milan let me
down badly.
--

Martin

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:15:19 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne) wrote:


>Indeed. I wore a 3 (or was it 4?) quid Primark shirt when I went to
>Buckingham Palace recently, and it was great. It washed really well too.
>Yesterday, a group of youngish Italian women passed me on the street in
>Manchester, and they all had Primark bags stuffed full of clothes! :)

Bloody foreign shoplifters!
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Martin

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:17:41 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne) wrote:

>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:12:29 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >[]
>> >> The shirts I bought in an expensive shop in Milan were probably the poorest
>> >> quality I have bought anywhere.
>> >
>> >Then again, the shirt and belt I bought at an airport in Rome in the
>> >early 90s lasted for _years_. Among the better purchases I've ever made,
>> >as clothes go!
>>
>> and a belt I bought for sod all from a man outside the cathedral in Milan
>> let me down badly.
>
>From the same trip, I've got nothing I bought from the various street
>markets which has lasted! :(

An ex-colleague has a Rolex clone that he bought for a fiver in a market in
A'dam around 1985 that still looks like it is made of gold and still keeps more
accurate time than the real thing.
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Martin

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:22:54 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne) wrote:

>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:17:41 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne) wrote:
>[]
>> An ex-colleague has a Rolex clone that he bought for a fiver in a market
>> in A'dam around 1985 that still looks like it is made of gold and still
>> keeps more accurate time than the real thing.
>
>I bought a fake in Bangkok, and it fell apart within 6 months. He's
>lucky! :)

My brother bought a fake Omega with a problem for a real price from the Red
Cross charity shop in Hungerford. Luckily I told him it was almost certainly a
fake, otherwise he would have paid somebody to fix it. The woman who sold it to
him refused to give him a refund. He had to contact Red Cross HQ before she
would give him a refund.
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Martin