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Old 24th May 2007, 07:09 AM   #11 (permalink)
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:03:56 +0100, d4g4h4.uk (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Mister Bartlett <me2@> wrote:
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>> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <d4g4h4.uk> wrote:

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>> > The only thing I like piccalili with is black pudding. Do you like it
>> > with anything else, assuming you like it at all?

>>
>> Chips.

>
>I'm not a fan of chips! :)


or Dutch ethnic cooking then.
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Old 24th May 2007, 07:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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On 24 mei, 13:03, d4g....uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
(*)) wrote:
> Mister Bartlett <m...@> wrote:
> > David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <d4g....uk> wrote:

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> > > The only thing I like piccalili with is black pudding. Do you like it
> > > with anything else, assuming you like it at all?

>
> > Chips.

>
> I'm not a fan of chips! :)


Maybe you would be if you had piccalili on them ?

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Old 25th May 2007, 04:33 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Martin a écrit :

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> Why don't you address the point Hatunen made instead of waffling?


It seems that I have answered. The polemics over French safety rules is
a bad one. None of these rules have led to catastrophic situation, on
the contrary. That a journal as the Times tries to make a big buzz on
this issue is pointless. The train safety record in France is very good,
and that of the high speed trains is excellent. So questionning the
rules in usage is at best a loss of time and at worst a very biaised
attitude...

> Is nobody outside France allowed to criticise all things French?


Quote me on this one. I have never said that. And never though this way.
Criticisms are acceptable and beneficial when they deal with a real
issue, but not when they are pointless.

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Old 25th May 2007, 04:43 AM   #14 (permalink)
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 10:33:32 +0200, Yves Dessaux <Yves.Dessaux@isv.cnrs-gif.fr>
wrote:

>Martin a écrit :
>
>>
>>
>> Why don't you address the point Hatunen made instead of waffling?

>
>It seems that I have answered. The polemics over French safety rules is
>a bad one. None of these rules have led to catastrophic situation, on
>the contrary. That a journal as the Times tries to make a big buzz on
>this issue is pointless. The train safety record in France is very good,
>and that of the high speed trains is excellent. So questionning the
>rules in usage is at best a loss of time and at worst a very biaised
>attitude...


I thought the whole point is that new mechanisms are being made to make things
safer. It makes me wonder why if the system is so safe already.

>
>> Is nobody outside France allowed to criticise all things French?

>
>Quote me on this one. I have never said that. And never though this way.
>Criticisms are acceptable and beneficial when they deal with a real
>issue, but not when they are pointless.


There is a real issue, France can't deliver their safety system on time to their
Dutch customers.
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Old 25th May 2007, 06:04 AM   #15 (permalink)
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 18:14:23 +0200, in .europe, Yves Dessaux
<Yves.Dessaux@isv.cnrs-gif.fr> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... Hatunen a écrit :
...
... > Ah. The "So's your old man" argument.
... >
... > Britsh rail does have problems, but I fail to see how that
... > precludes Brit newspapers and magazines from discussing problems
... > in other parts of the EU. Or the world, for that matter.
...
... First it is a matter of prority. Second, it is a matter of questionning
... rules that have prooved over years to allow both a reliable and secure
... service to passenger trains, third it is a matter of trying to find
... problems where there is none (preferentially as we say in the head of
... others!), fourth a matter of technical competence. As a French person I
... would not discuss the quality of the English language of native English
... speakers.

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