No smoking

in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008

No cars later.
--

Martin

"Martin" wrote news:l0hb239i1asg4glorle9kn4tevcldqjqvk@...
> in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
> No cars later.


A car in a restaurant is pretty inconvenient anyway.
Greetings,

-duh

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:08:56 +0200, "Thur" <thur@zoekmaarop.invalid> wrote:

>"Martin" wrote news:l0hb239i1asg4glorle9kn4tevcldqjqvk@...
>> in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>> No cars later.
>
>
>A car in a restaurant is pretty inconvenient anyway.
>Greetings,

Even in a Drive In?
--

Martin

Martin wrote:
> in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>

Only restaurants, not bars?
Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:45:03 +0100, Mike O'Sullivan <mike@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Martin wrote:
>> in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>>
>
>Only restaurants, not bars?
>Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!

Only coffee and cookies maybe consumed on the premises? :-)

>

The government wants smoking banned in both. The Horeca -the restaurant and bars
owners association, has offered a ban in restaurants soon and a ban in bars not
before 2010. As I understand it the government is going to legislate a ban in
both, now. Serves the Horeca lot right for not introducing a voluntary ban by
1-1-2007 as agreed.
--

Martin

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4hd.uk> wrote in message
news:1hwrj16.1romrr11tbxi98N%d4g4hd.uk...
> Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:45:03 +0100, Mike O'Sullivan <mike@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Martin wrote:
>> >> in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>> >>
>> >
>> >Only restaurants, not bars?
>> >Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!
>>
>> Only coffee and cookies maybe consumed on the premises? :-)
>>
>> >
>>
>> The government wants smoking banned in both. The Horeca -the restaurant
>> and bars owners association, has offered a ban in restaurants soon and a
>> ban in bars not before 2010. As I understand it the government is going
>> to
>> legislate a ban in both, now. Serves the Horeca lot right for not
>> introducing a voluntary ban by 1-1-2007 as agreed.
>
> That's very interesting news, thanks! Any hope for Germany at some
> point? :)
>
> The changeover here is going to be interesting. I was in quite a nice
> pub in London last night near Warwick Road, and I'd say half of the
> clientele were smoking, which wasn't pleasant, even with pretty good
> ventilation.

I do have to say that having given up smoking I now find an evening in a pub
more trying than I used to and will be using them more when the ban comes
in.

It will also make eating in pubs less of a lottery. If you get a seat next
to the pub 'chimney' your meal is going to be spoiled, smoker or not...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:19:29 GMT, "William Black" <william.black@.uk>
wrote:

>
>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4hd.uk> wrote in message
>news:1hwrj16.1romrr11tbxi98N%d4g4hd.uk.. .
>> Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:45:03 +0100, Mike O'Sullivan <mike@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Martin wrote:
>>> >> in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >Only restaurants, not bars?
>>> >Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!
>>>
>>> Only coffee and cookies maybe consumed on the premises? :-)
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> The government wants smoking banned in both. The Horeca -the restaurant
>>> and bars owners association, has offered a ban in restaurants soon and a
>>> ban in bars not before 2010. As I understand it the government is going
>>> to
>>> legislate a ban in both, now. Serves the Horeca lot right for not
>>> introducing a voluntary ban by 1-1-2007 as agreed.
>>
>> That's very interesting news, thanks! Any hope for Germany at some
>> point? :)
>>
>> The changeover here is going to be interesting. I was in quite a nice
>> pub in London last night near Warwick Road, and I'd say half of the
>> clientele were smoking, which wasn't pleasant, even with pretty good
>> ventilation.
>
>I do have to say that having given up smoking I now find an evening in a pub
>more trying than I used to and will be using them more when the ban comes
>in.

I gave up smoking almost 37 years ago. About 20 years after I gave up I became
strongly allergic to cigarette smoke. Not something made up in my mind, but
diagnosed by the chest department of the local hospital.

>
>It will also make eating in pubs less of a lottery. If you get a seat next
>to the pub 'chimney' your meal is going to be spoiled, smoker or not...

but it looks like sitting outside a pub having a pint on sunny day will be not
so nice.
--

Martin

On Apr 18, 5:45 am, Mike O'Sullivan <m...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Martin wrote:
> > in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>
> Only restaurants, not bars?
> Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!


New York City's very strict smoking ban makes exceptions for cigar and
hookah bars. I can't imagine Amsterdam wouldn't do the same for
cannabis cafes.

Iceman wrote:
> On Apr 18, 5:45 am, Mike O'Sullivan <m...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Martin wrote:
>>> in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>> Only restaurants, not bars?
>> Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!
>
>
> New York City's very strict smoking ban makes exceptions for cigar and
> hookah bars.

Interestingly, this will make the UK laws among the strictest, as the
question of "hookah bars" was the subject of a TV item a couple of weeks
ago. It was made clear that there will be NO exceptions. These
coffee/smoking bars will, after the 1st July, have to provide coffee only.

"Mike O'Sullivan" <mike@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:58ofcuF2gddejU1@mid....
> Iceman wrote:
>> On Apr 18, 5:45 am, Mike O'Sullivan <m...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> Martin wrote:
>>>> in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>>> Only restaurants, not bars?
>>> Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!
>>
>>
>> New York City's very strict smoking ban makes exceptions for cigar and
>> hookah bars.
>
> Interestingly, this will make the UK laws among the strictest, as the
> question of "hookah bars" was the subject of a TV item a couple of weeks
> ago. It was made clear that there will be NO exceptions. These
> coffee/smoking bars will, after the 1st July, have to provide coffee only.

If the new puritans of the Labour party weren't going to make an exception
for working men's clubs they certainly weren't going to make an exception
for the new and trendy London hookah bars...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.