Congratulations Norway

[Tom P]

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <d4g4h4**********.uk> wrote:
>
>> Tom P <werotizy@freent.dd> wrote:
>>
>>> ....
>> I'd say congratulations all around. The show was very well done and as
>> Eurovision pop numbers go, a lot of great songs- and more realistic
>> results. But as Paddy O'Connell said in the heats earlier in the week,
>> Rybak is quite a bambino. Norway would have got my vote, but I'm biased.
>
> Oh, and I imagine that the exact date of the result won't be lost on the
> Norwegian media. Gratulerer med dagen!
>

The result certainly confounded the expectation that the chauvinistic
votes of the slav and migrant labour countries would dominate as usual.

That show item with the swimmers in the transparent plastic bowl thing
was a stroke of artistic genius.

[William Black]

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:


>
> Not to me. The ability to belt out a few high notes at the standard
of a
> first year conservatoire trained singer is not much of an asset in
> popular music.
>

Well it depends what you mean by 'popular music'.

My experience is that the disposable stuff liked by many young people
isn't about the noise that comes out of the artists mouth, that can
be manipulated to an extent many people would find shocking.

It hes a great deal to do with looks and the ability to dance while
wearing as few clothes as is decent.

Rock music is slightly different.

You need to both look good and be able to play at least a few chords
and about a couple of dozen individual notes on the electric guitar...

Folk singers only need the chords, but unlike the others, they do
still need to be able to hold a tune...

--
William Black

[William Black]

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:

> William Black <william.black@***********.uk> wrote:
>
>> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Not to me. The ability to belt out a few high notes at the
standard
>> of a
>> > first year conservatoire trained singer is not much of an asset
in
>> > popular music.
>> >
>>
>> Well it depends what you mean by 'popular music'.
>>
>> My experience is that the disposable stuff liked by many young
people
>> isn't about the noise that comes out of the artists mouth, that
can
>> be manipulated to an extent many people would find shocking.
>>
>> It hes a great deal to do with looks and the ability to dance while
>> wearing as few clothes as is decent.
>>
>> Rock music is slightly different.
>>
>> You need to both look good and be able to play at least a few
chords
>> and about a couple of dozen individual notes on the electric
guitar...
>>
>> Folk singers only need the chords, but unlike the others, they do
>> still need to be able to hold a tune...
>
> I would find it hard to define those parameters so clearly. There
are
> myriad skills required to be a singer that seem to depend so much on
the
> style and genre. I think it's like trying to compare the skills
required
> to play classical piano vs. tabla...
>

Probably true.

There are almost certainly popular singers who can sing.

What I'm saying is that the minimum requirements are reasonably...

--
William Black

[Tim C.]

On Sun, 17 May 2009 13:20:13 +0100, William Black wrote in post :
<news:guovdv$tpu$1@news.eternal-september.org> :

> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>
>>
>> Not to me. The ability to belt out a few high notes at the standard
> of a
>> first year conservatoire trained singer is not much of an asset in
>> popular music.
>>
>
> Well it depends what you mean by 'popular music'.
>
> My experience is that the disposable stuff liked by many young people
> isn't about the noise that comes out of the artists mouth, that can
> be manipulated to an extent many people would find shocking.

Things like TC-Helicon's Voice Correct spring to mind (something I could do
with myself actually... )

--
Tim C.