Scenic areas in England

[Chris H]

In message <gu1tmd$jl$1@news.motzarella.org>, William Black
<william.black@***********.uk> writes
>Do you honestly think a British intelligence training camp in Scotland full
>of Islamic terrorists in any location could possibly remain a secret?

Yes. It has escaped general knowledge so far.

>The Highlands is alive with tourists for much of the year.

Small parts of the Highlands are.

>But...
>There were, in WWII, three major Commando training bases in Scotland, all
>of which are well known, all of which are now closed and all of which are
>now used as tourist attractions because of their WWII associations.

Yes I know my father in law was at one of them.

>Bands of blokes in bed sheets

You have a funny idea of what they were wearing

> with Kalashnikovs dashing about the place
>would have discommoded the Highland Tourist Board to an extent that would
>not be considered acceptable in peace time.
>You really must do better when you spout your utter bollocks.

You clearly know very little. Vast areas of Scotland are off limits to
the tourists who barely scratch the surface of the hills and mountains.

The Tourists do go to all the usually places within 200 yards of the
roads and the usual mountains. In fact Ben Nevis is usually quite
crowded in the summer.

However vast areas are grouse moors, private estates etc that the
tourists never get to where you can hid 200 people who are being trained
in how to say unseen in hills.

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[William Black]

"Chris H" <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote in message
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> However vast areas are grouse moors, private estates etc that the
> tourists never get to where you can hid 200 people who are being trained
> in how to say unseen in hills.

Are you saying that the government is using private estates for the training
of Islamic militants?

I'll have some of what he's smoking...

--
William Black

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

[Chris H]

In message <gu4nmb$bsp$1@news.motzarella.org>, William Black
<william.black@***********.uk> writes
>
>"Chris H" <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote in message
>news:3LF7EMLHFbBKFA8V@phaedsys.*************...
>
>> However vast areas are grouse moors, private estates etc that the
>> tourists never get to where you can hid 200 people who are being trained
>> in how to say unseen in hills.
>
>Are you saying that the government is using private estates for the training
>of Islamic militants?

Yes.. Been common practice for centuries.

Remember in the 70's and 80's they were Anti USSR Freedom Fighters.
The term "Islamic militant" wasn't in the tabloids

However. You are correct. The SIS carefully selected who the UK would
train. The US against the advice of the UK did train some of the more
fundamental Islamic groups. These included (or groups that became) Al-
Qeada and the Taliban

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[mikeos]

Mike wrote:
> On Fri, 08 May 2009 16:58:12 -0700, Jürgen Exner
> <jurgenex@***********m> wrote:
>
>> Let me just ask you one question: if that British citizen happens to
>> have an ID card, can he use that ID card in lieu of a passport?
>
> what ID card?

I've got a Tesco loyalty card. Is that OK?

[J. Clarke]

Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Need to carry passport in a RF shield foil pouch, so
> everyone within range can't read your RFID information.
> Otherwise, it's the digital equivilant of having your
> personal information stencilled on your back, so everyone
> can read it.

So how does it benefit somebody to know your passport number?

[Chris H]

In message <gu6odj02jig@news3.newsguy.com>, J. Clarke
<jclarke.usenet@cox.net> writes
>Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> Need to carry passport in a RF shield foil pouch, so
>> everyone within range can't read your RFID information.
>> Otherwise, it's the digital equivilant of having your
>> personal information stencilled on your back, so everyone
>> can read it.
>
>So how does it benefit somebody to know your passport number?

They can fake a passport.

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[William Black]

"Chris H" <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote in message
news:mdXfh8HNYuBKFAPs@phaedsys.*************...

> More worrying is over 3000 blank and unused new RFID UK passports were
> stolen last year.

When you look at thedata the British government and its agencies have lost
in the past year this is trivial.

Besides, on the streets of London a passport costs about £1,000.

--
William Black

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

[Chris H]

In message <gu700e$jr5$1@news.motzarella.org>, William Black
<william.black@***********.uk> writes
>
>"Chris H" <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote in message
>news:mdXfh8HNYuBKFAPs@phaedsys.*************...
>
>> More worrying is over 3000 blank and unused new RFID UK passports were
>> stolen last year.
>
>When you look at thedata the British government and its agencies have lost
>in the past year this is trivial.

Sadly true.

>Besides, on the streets of London a passport costs about £1,000.

And guns a lot less....

So what is the point of all the control?

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[William Black]

"Chris H" <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote in message
news:bCPgm2Ttn0BKFAJd@phaedsys.*************...
> In message <gu7bhf$m9f$1@news.motzarella.org>, William Black
> <william.black@***********.uk> writes

>>Professional communication equipment when set up superbly by professional
>>radio techs can just about manage 80 dB at 1 micro volt because noise
>>levels
>>in professionally laid earth mats in a quiet area is about that level.
>>
>>You're not going to do it from a moving motor vehicle at any range over a
>>meter, which is what I said in the first place.
>
> He managed to do it.

Nope.

He says he managed to do it.

There's a reasonable amount of legitimate money to be made from scanning
this stuff at a decent range, for example, building and room access
systems.

Nobody is doing it or selling systems to do it.

Therefore, logically, it doesn't work...

--
William Black

Free men have open minds
If you want loyalty, buy dog

[William Black]

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4**********.uk> wrote in message
news:1izivp5.1blcuu53r4kewN%d4g4h4**********.uk...
> William Black <william.black@***********.uk> wrote:
>
> []
>> Ever tried using your mobile phone on a train where the track is not
>> equipped with trackside aerials?
>
> Frequently.

Frustrating isn't it...

--
William Black

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.