Tom Sawyers' Island

miles wrote:
> Sean Kilbride wrote:
>> Regardless I am still excited about the prospect for soemthing new, if
>> the park lacks what you are looking for then try to find your
>> entertainment and make your memories else where.
>
> I as a paying customer would rather try to let the owners of the park
> know what I want and what will get the most money out of me. If they
> ignore the public then so be it. I'll do as you suggest and take my
> money elsewhere. But right now theres still hope that Disneyland will
> survive and return to the character it once had.


Have to agree with you 100%, Miles.

I think they've lost sight of what the place is all about.

Jon Nadelberg wrote:

> I think they've lost sight of what the place is all about.

While I do enjoy DCA and other Disney parks they are not Disneyland.
What I am seeing is that Disneyland is slowly becoming just like the
other Disney parks. It's losing it's uniqueness as being Disneyland.

"Jon Nadelberg" <news@nadelberg.com> wrote in message
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> Sean Kilbride wrote:
>> If you go to Micechat and actually read the article it truly makes sense.
>> Remember Walt did not want Disney to ever be complete and as long as we
>> have an imagination it never will be.
>>
>
> That does not mean that you throw out the founding ideas upon which the
> place was built.
>
> A great deal of the popularity of the park is due to its Americana. If
> they do this, then they throw out a great deal of that.
>
> Which is fine. For the last 20 years or so, they've done nothing but
> really take away the basics upon which the original park was made popular,
> and replaced it with ever-increasingly tawdry attractions that do not fit
> in with their surroundings.
>
> Turning the island into a pirate theme just takes yet one more giant step
> into turning a once special place just that much more ordinary.


Jeezus do they have to capitalize on every success by squeezing it to death
to milk every possible cent out of it in the process, killing the goose that
laid the golden egg? Unbelievable.

I remember when "synergy" used to be cool.

---
Yet another satisfied customer of Bartender Sam!

tommy wrote:
imagination it never will be.
>
> I'm so sick of this "Disneyland will never be complete" BS. I think Walt
> said that at a time when there was room to build new attractions.

No, I think Walt meant exactly what he said and they way most take it.
Otherwise we'd have a ton of really old rides of little interest now.

I agree with Tommy, we all miss things and some new things leave something
to be desired. However, its still Disneyland, its still the best.
I will agree that maybe all Tom Sawyer Island needs is a good reburb, yet it
needs something and if my choice was to keep it as is without a reburb or
turn it into a new attraction then I would be up for the change. As the
island is now, its really lacking.
My point was that some people spend so much time ragging on the park. Lets
not forget its still disneyland and we all still visit along with many
others.

Tracy
"miles" <nope@nopers.com> wrote in message
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> tommy wrote:
> imagination it never will be.
>>
>> I'm so sick of this "Disneyland will never be complete" BS. I think Walt
>> said that at a time when there was room to build new attractions.
>
> No, I think Walt meant exactly what he said and they way most take it.
> Otherwise we'd have a ton of really old rides of little interest now.

Sean Kilbride wrote:

> My point was that some people spend so much time ragging on the park. Lets
> not forget its still disneyland and we all still visit along with many
> others.

I still like Disneyland but only when I find a lucky day where its not
jammed. Any time ride lines are 45mins to 3 hours its just no fun. I
can't stand having to jam my way through a bottleneck crowd in front of
POTC or Splash Mountain or Tomorrow Land. I don't enjoy Disneyland when
its like that.

I agree with you but has'nt it always been that way? I can remeber 90
minute lines for same mountain when I was a teenager and thats 30 years ago.
I go in October no crowds, cheap hotels. I did go a weekend in August and I
was surprised that I did not wait too long.

"miles" <nope@nopers.com> wrote in message
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> Sean Kilbride wrote:
>
>> My point was that some people spend so much time ragging on the park.
>> Lets not forget its still disneyland and we all still visit along with
>> many others.
>
> I still like Disneyland but only when I find a lucky day where its not
> jammed. Any time ride lines are 45mins to 3 hours its just no fun. I
> can't stand having to jam my way through a bottleneck crowd in front of
> POTC or Splash Mountain or Tomorrow Land. I don't enjoy Disneyland when
> its like that.

Sean Kilbride wrote:
> I agree with you but has'nt it always been that way? I can remeber 90
> minute lines for same mountain when I was a teenager and thats 30 years ago.
> I go in October no crowds, cheap hotels. I did go a weekend in August and I
> was surprised that I did not wait too long.

I went on New Years Eve 1988. Disneyland was deserted. Except for a
few hours mid day, rides were all walk on. Of course the live
entertainment that night was Marie Osmond!

Same with going to Disneyland on Thanksgiving day or Christmas Day in
the 70's. Nobody there. Everyone was home with the family. Today
those days are jammed.

gjw wrote:
> MiceAge.com is reporting that they plan to get rid of Tom Sawyer
> Island - or more specifically, they plan to turn it into a Pirates of
> the Caribbean themed-island.
>
I don't believe it. Getting rid of Tom Sawyer Island would be like
getting rid of POTC. It will never ever ever happen.

John Lasseter is in charge of Imagineering now. I trust his decisions.
How many of you actually go to Tom's Sawyer's island every trip? I know
it is not high priority like it was when I was a kid. Get over the
possible changes. If they happen, they happen.