Procedural changes to Extra Magic Hours?

On Sep 1, 12:00 pm, "Tina" <TinaC...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> Showing the room key is the way it's done at Universal for front of the line
> access. And it has worked there for a long time.
>
> So it should work about the same way, as long as Disney CM's DO check the
> keys and don't just start letting everyone through.

In my experience, it's about 50/50 as to whether or not the CMs were
even looking for the wristbands. With this new procedure, I rather
doubt any non-resort-guest is ever going to leave the park for EMH.
Blah.

Paul Lalli

[Default] Thus spake Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>:

>Keane wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:58:07 -0400, "Gloria in Miami"
>> <konslergm> wrote:
>>
>>> "Keane" <keane@keanespics.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> And y'all forgotten the most important part. Disney can now track
>>>> what attractions *you* go see, since each room key has a name
>>>> attached to it... :-)
>>> That would only jold true if they had some sort of key/card scanner at each
>>> attraction loation.
>>>
>>> Gloria in Miami
>>
>> You mean they're not going to check to see if the room key is valid
>> at all?
>>
>> They better make the dates on the keys MUCH larger and make the date
>> section unalterable...
>
>Keep in mind that the card designs change every so often, so it's not
>like you could bring back a KTTW card from years ago. Besides, how many
>people would actually stay off-site, but bring a KTTW card from a
>previous stay just to enjoy EMH nights? Yeah, I can see a few people
>doing it, but really, it would be a big risk to take. Although I doubt
>the CM's will closely inspect the dates on the cards, all it would take
>is for one of them to do it, and you could get ejected.

No, but I could spend a night at the GF and then the rest of the week
at some $39/nt place.

"Rudeney" <rudeney@mickeypics.com> wrote in message
news:g9s701$p5q$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>
> I am thinking I have done this before, but I can't be certain. Besides
> that, I can't imagine that a ride would be designed in such a way that
> leaving a person in the vehicle could be dangerous. That doesn't make
> much sense. For example, what if the brake control failed at the unload
> area or a CM simply "forgot" to unload all passengers.

Just doing the rounds in my mind ... none of the attractions would be
considered dangerous to guests or CMs left to ride between unload and load
BUT there are a varied set of reasons that we don't allow it. Bad show is
the main reason. Another is that although the reset zones are monitored, the
CMs that are doing the monitoring rarely watch those areas. Lap bars can be
relocked for a re-ride but most CMs are not trained to do this (I know, just
push down...). At PoC, there is a lift hill that is not designed for the
weight of a loaded boat (wouldn't cause it to stop, but the belts would
stretch and require replacement too often. At Space Mountain, again, there
is a lift hill and the torque sensors on the lift motors MIGHT cause an
EStop (well, if it were a bunch of kids it'd probably be ok). Somebody
already pointed out the chance that a guest left on ToT could have a long
wait.

All of the attractions are certified to carry passengers through 100% of the
tracked area - and most of them have unload and load in the same place -
making it OK for the operator to allow re-rides. It's just that extra level
of security and safety, bad show, and lack of training that keeps them from
doing this on the few attractions that have reset zones.

Boom
(I should know, I've done them all...)

Thank, Boom! Lisa

CEO Boom wrote:

> "Rudeney" <rudeney@mickeypics.com> wrote in message
> news:g9s701$p5q$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>>I am thinking I have done this before, but I can't be certain. Besides
>>that, I can't imagine that a ride would be designed in such a way that
>>leaving a person in the vehicle could be dangerous. That doesn't make
>>much sense. For example, what if the brake control failed at the unload
>>area or a CM simply "forgot" to unload all passengers.
>
>
> Just doing the rounds in my mind ... none of the attractions would be
> considered dangerous to guests or CMs left to ride between unload and load
> BUT there are a varied set of reasons that we don't allow it. Bad show is
> the main reason. Another is that although the reset zones are monitored, the
> CMs that are doing the monitoring rarely watch those areas. Lap bars can be
> relocked for a re-ride but most CMs are not trained to do this (I know, just
> push down...). At PoC, there is a lift hill that is not designed for the
> weight of a loaded boat (wouldn't cause it to stop, but the belts would
> stretch and require replacement too often. At Space Mountain, again, there
> is a lift hill and the torque sensors on the lift motors MIGHT cause an
> EStop (well, if it were a bunch of kids it'd probably be ok). Somebody
> already pointed out the chance that a guest left on ToT could have a long
> wait.
>
> All of the attractions are certified to carry passengers through 100% of the
> tracked area - and most of them have unload and load in the same place -
> making it OK for the operator to allow re-rides. It's just that extra level
> of security and safety, bad show, and lack of training that keeps them from
> doing this on the few attractions that have reset zones.
>
> Boom
> (I should know, I've done them all...)
>
>

Rudeney wrote:
> CEO Boom wrote:
>> "Rudeney" <rudeney@mickeypics.com> wrote in message
>> news:g9s701$p5q$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> I am thinking I have done this before, but I can't be certain.
>>> Besides that, I can't imagine that a ride would be designed in such a
>>> way that leaving a person in the vehicle could be dangerous. That
>>> doesn't make much sense. For example, what if the brake control
>>> failed at the unload area or a CM simply "forgot" to unload all
>>> passengers.
>>
>> Just doing the rounds in my mind ... none of the attractions would be
>> considered dangerous to guests or CMs left to ride between unload and
>> load BUT there are a varied set of reasons that we don't allow it. Bad
>> show is the main reason. Another is that although the reset zones are
>> monitored, the CMs that are doing the monitoring rarely watch those
>> areas. Lap bars can be relocked for a re-ride but most CMs are not
>> trained to do this (I know, just push down...). At PoC, there is a
>> lift hill that is not designed for the weight of a loaded boat
>> (wouldn't cause it to stop, but the belts would stretch and require
>> replacement too often. At Space Mountain, again, there is a lift hill
>> and the torque sensors on the lift motors MIGHT cause an EStop (well,
>> if it were a bunch of kids it'd probably be ok). Somebody already
>> pointed out the chance that a guest left on ToT could have a long wait.
>>
>> All of the attractions are certified to carry passengers through 100%
>> of the tracked area - and most of them have unload and load in the
>> same place - making it OK for the operator to allow re-rides. It's
>> just that extra level of security and safety, bad show, and lack of
>> training that keeps them from doing this on the few attractions that
>> have reset zones.
>>
>> Boom
>> (I should know, I've done them all...)
>
> Thanks for setting my failing memory straight. I guess it was another
> ride. I know I've done continuous re-rides on some attractions where
> the ride vehicle went "backstage", like Buzz Lightyear. I know I've done
> some back-to-back rides on Space Mt. on E-ride nights, but I guess we
> had to unload. I know we didn't go all the way out and back in, so
> maybe they let us take a shortcut back to the loading platform. Anyhow,
> now I can rest easy knowing that guests won't be decapitated if left in
> the rocket on Space Mt.!
>

There is a ramp to go up to the load area from the unload area. So you
don't have to go all the way out and come back in again. Done it several
times. The ramp comes out right at the load area in the handicap access
spot.

John