Add more monorails!

Bart Simpson wrote:
> Add a second TTC and run a loop to the Studios and AK and AKL.

Agree. I've mentioned here a couple times that I discussed
this once with cast members at WDW. They told me the original
monorail turned out to cost lots more to put each pylon in
that originally estimated. Disney hasn't been willing to
spend the money an extension would cost.


--
Glenn Holliday holliday@acm.org

"Glenn Holliday" <holliday@acm.org> wrote in message
news:eRsMj.3266$Ho5.957@trnddc01...
> Bart Simpson wrote:
>> Add a second TTC and run a loop to the Studios and AK and AKL.
>
> Agree. I've mentioned here a couple times that I discussed
> this once with cast members at WDW. They told me the original
> monorail turned out to cost lots more to put each pylon in
> that originally estimated. Disney hasn't been willing to
> spend the money an extension would cost.
>
> --
> Glenn Holliday holliday@acm.org

Is there a verifiable source to a story that when the monorail was being
built a newly constructed pylon sank below the surface of the ground? - Bill

Bart Simpson <Bart@eatmyshorts.com> wrote:

> Add a second TTC and run a loop to the Studios and AK and AKL.

At about $1.5 Million per mile, where's the profit?

Bill Brown wrote:

> Is there a verifiable source to a story that when the monorail was being
> built a newly constructed pylon sank below the surface of the ground? - Bill
>
First I've heard that story.


--
Glenn Holliday holliday@acm.org

> At about $1.5 Million per mile, where's the profit?


Considering how much they spend on new busses, repair on old busses,
gas and bus drivers, it would seem to me that it would at least even
out over the years, if not be a better investment than busses. But I'm
sure that if it was going to be a real money saver, Disney would have
done it years ago.

-Julie
TDC Rapunzel, Food Rocks Head Chef and Keeper of the Monstro Table

Julie (ImKiwi10) wrote:
>> At about $1.5 Million per mile, where's the profit?
>
>
> Considering how much they spend on new busses, repair on old busses,
> gas and bus drivers, it would seem to me that it would at least even
> out over the years, if not be a better investment than busses. But I'm
> sure that if it was going to be a real money saver, Disney would have
> done it years ago.
>
> -Julie
> TDC Rapunzel, Food Rocks Head Chef and Keeper of the Monstro Table

Oh? Did they develop monorail trains that would last forever without
periodic maintainence when I wasn't looking? I thought Disney's monorail
trains used rubber tires to propel themselves along the concrete rail,
thus needing periodic replacement due to tread wear. Then there would be
wear on the electrical contacts and the rail they would slide on and
possibly brushes in the electrical motors. There would also be wear on
the seating and door mechanisms. They might be able to move more
passengers per driver, but the complications of monorail
switches/turnouts would make it difficult to shift vehicles between
routes when adjusting to varying demand levels.

> > Add a second TTC and run a loop to the Studios and AK and AKL.
>
> At about $1.5 Million per mile, where's the profit?

That was original cost. I believe it's higher these days, MUCH
higher.

ef

[Default] Thus spake "Bill Brown" <corecalifornia-diz08m>:

>"Glenn Holliday" <holliday@acm.org> wrote in message
>news:eRsMj.3266$Ho5.957@trnddc01...
>> Bart Simpson wrote:
>>> Add a second TTC and run a loop to the Studios and AK and AKL.
>>
>> Agree. I've mentioned here a couple times that I discussed
>> this once with cast members at WDW. They told me the original
>> monorail turned out to cost lots more to put each pylon in
>> that originally estimated. Disney hasn't been willing to
>> spend the money an extension would cost.
>>
>> --
>> Glenn Holliday holliday@acm.org
>
>Is there a verifiable source to a story that when the monorail was being
>built a newly constructed pylon sank below the surface of the ground? - Bill
>

UL. The truth is, the ground under a stretch between TTC and Epcot
was so soft they had to sink pilings about 100 feet into the ground.

[Default] Thus spake Disney Fun <Fun@DF.com>:

>Bart Simpson <Bart@eatmyshorts.com> wrote:
>
>> Add a second TTC and run a loop to the Studios and AK and AKL.
>
>At about $1.5 Million per mile, where's the profit?

Not quite. In 1978, it cost the Souther Pacific approximately $1M a
mile to build a conventional railroad. Now that did include
aqucisition of ROW, but still.

The best guess I've heard in a whle came from "Mad Max" Goldblatt,
who, in about 1984, presented a plan to the Dallas city council, to
build a monorail between Plano and downtown Dallas at a cost of about
$3M a mile, using existing ROW down Central Distressway.

I suspect the number is now closer to $5M.