Missed port of call

In article <kurtullman-1D739F.11411918062006@news.west.>,
Kurt Ullman <kurtullmanm> wrote:

> This is the part that the NJ AG is studiously ignoring....

The NJ AG most likely contends that New Jersey law overrides that
language in the cruise contracts.

Just because something it is written in a cruise contract does not make
what is written lawful. Quoting from the cruise contract is not the
answer. The answer is that when you miss a port there is no guideline
that there will be any compensation whether the reason is weather or
mechanical problem. The cruise line might give something if they feel
like it. You might be able to get more if you ask for it or organize
your fellow passengers to protest. Beyond that you would have to make
legal challenge and you would expend more energy and resources than it
is worth unless you were able to get a government agency, or advocate
group to take it on.

--
Charles

In article <180620061215348009%fort@his.com.remove.invalid> ,
Charles <fort@his.com.remove.invalid> wrote:

> In article <kurtullman-1D739F.11411918062006@news.west.>,
> Kurt Ullman <kurtullmanm> wrote:

> Just because something it is written in a cruise contract does not make
> what is written lawful. Quoting from the cruise contract is not the
> answer. The answer is that when you miss a port there is no guideline
> that there will be any compensation whether the reason is weather or
> mechanical problem. The cruise line might give something if they feel
> like it. You might be able to get more if you ask for it or organize
> your fellow passengers to protest. Beyond that you would have to make
> legal challenge and you would expend more energy and resources than it
> is worth unless you were able to get a government agency, or advocate
> group to take it on.

No, but he is specifically pushing it under the Consumer Fraud part of
his laws. The fact that it is in the contract makes it REAL hard to
prove fraud. The contract states the guidance... there is none owed.
Now what the cruiseline wants to do above that for PR purposes is up to
the cruiseline.
In otherwords, if you aren't spending any of your own money...

Charles wrote:
> In article <kurtullman-1D739F.11411918062006@news.west.>,
> Kurt Ullman <kurtullmanm> wrote:
>
>
>>This is the part that the NJ AG is studiously ignoring....
>
>
> The NJ AG most likely contends that New Jersey law overrides that
> language in the cruise contracts.
>
> Just because something it is written in a cruise contract does not make
> what is written lawful. Quoting from the cruise contract is not the
> answer. The answer is that when you miss a port there is no guideline
> that there will be any compensation whether the reason is weather or
> mechanical problem. The cruise line might give something if they feel
> like it. You might be able to get more if you ask for it or organize
> your fellow passengers to protest. Beyond that you would have to make
> legal challenge and you would expend more energy and resources than it
> is worth unless you were able to get a government agency, or advocate
> group to take it on.
>
Plus, it probably doesn't fall under US laws anyway.
Clay

In article <mrilg.31864$JW5.28705@southeast.>, Crabman
<Crabman@dud.com> wrote:

> Plus, it probably doesn't fall under US laws anyway.

People keep saying that but if the ship homeports out of a US port or
the cruise is sold in the United States it is going to fall under many
US laws. I don't understand why some people are so quick to cede their
rights or take the side of the cruise lines.

--
Charles

In article <180620061714261687%fort@his.com.remove.invalid> ,
Charles <fort@his.com.remove.invalid> wrote:

> In article <mrilg.31864$JW5.28705@southeast.>, Crabman
> <Crabman@dud.com> wrote:
>
> > Plus, it probably doesn't fall under US laws anyway.
>
> People keep saying that but if the ship homeports out of a US port or
> the cruise is sold in the United States it is going to fall under many
> US laws. I don't understand why some people are so quick to cede their
> rights or take the side of the cruise lines.

No one is talking about ceding their rights, they have a perfect
right to get a pandering politician to take on their case when they
don't have a contractural leg to stand on....