NO deck Plans in New Brochure

"Susette" <cruiseoutlets@> wrote in message
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>I received a fax on the new Brochures from RCCL, and they will not have
> deck plans in them, I want to know what others thoughts on this is. I
> think it is not a smart thing to do, its like having a can of chicken
> soup and not having all the ingredients. BUT maybe I am thinking this
> from a travel agents viewpoint. Do consumers such as yourselves, really
> like the deck plans included? would you rather see them online? Do you
> not care if they are in a brochure or not? Will this make you think the
> brochure is not effective? I would like to see feedback from agents and
> Consumers on what you think of this new policy?
> Thanks!
>
> Susie
>

I want to see where my cabin is when I book.

I won't like a brochure without deck plans.

--Tom

"E.k.R." <erollerYYY@fotki.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> It's a RIDICULOUS idea, and I don't care if you are a consumer or travel
> agent. I hate RCI brochures anyway, as they do all possible to downplay
> the fact you are on a ship. In fact you are hard pressed to even find a
> picture of a ship. It's all about the activities and ports with RCI, and
> very little about the ship. I always felt this was rather counter
> productive since RCI's ships are so attractive and innovative. I think
> they should be playing up the ship itself along with the activities and
> ports. RCI's deck plans are by far the worst in print anyway, but at
> least you can see where your cabin is. The lounge detail is pathetic.
>
> Not all passengers have access to the internet at all times (some not at
> all). There is nothing like looking at a printed deck plan at your
> convenience, not just when you are sitting in front of a computer.
>
> Bad idea RCI .... sounds like some of your bean counters are at work
> again.
>

Save some money RCI... HEAVE the bean counters.

--Tom

Looking at the deck plans is important.

I am very fussy about my cabin location. I want it to be amidships
and in a quite area. Without the deck plans, I could end up
below the disco.

>
>
>I received a fax on the new Brochures from RCCL, and they will not have
>deck plans in them, I want to know what others thoughts on this is. I
>think it is not a smart thing to do, its like having a can of chicken
>soup and not having all the ingredients. BUT maybe I am thinking this
>from a travel agents viewpoint. Do consumers such as yourselves, really
>like the deck plans included? would you rather see them online? Do you
>not care if they are in a brochure or not? Will this make you think the
>brochure is not effective? I would like to see feedback from agents and
>Consumers on what you think of this new policy?
>Thanks!
>
>Susie
>

WEll I have read everyones Suggestions and it seems that all but 1
person is not happy about this. I am glad that it is not just me that
has a problem with this.... I sell alot of RCCL and one of my
complaints about the Brochures is that there is not enough pictures of
the rooms and the ships.....
to much of the other fluff and not enough substance. Takign the pricing
out of the brochures is fine since it never matches anyway, but to take
out DECK PLANS? what are they smoking? Glad to see others feel the same
way!
SO now to complain.... hmmmwhere do we start... I did send this thread
to my DSM and asked for it to get to the right people

Sue

My DSM told me that the Brochures stand as printed. THeya re already
printed and will NOT ahve deck plans in them. They are worthless huh?
Funny thing is we will get our TA guides way after the brochures!

"Susette" <cruiseoutlets@> wrote in message
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> My DSM told me that the Brochures stand as printed. THeya re already
> printed and will NOT ahve deck plans in them. They are worthless huh?
> Funny thing is we will get our TA guides way after the brochures!


Very frustrating Susette. Thanks for all the info.

My opinion of RCI has recently been downgraded.

I wonder if Celebrity brochures will follow? Maybe RCI considers Celebrity
"guests" to be a bit less "confused" when trying to read a deck plan?

Ernie

Are you serious that there will be no deck plans in the brouchure? That
sounds terrible to me. I use that to plan where my room is by checking what
is nearby and above and below the cabin. Why would they leave that out? I
think that people could be very upset if they chose a cabin that was under
the theater or by the kitchen when they were the ones who needed extra quiet
around the times that those areas might be busy. We don't all rely on the
TA to help with the cabin decision and I, personally, don't want to be left
without that kind of knowledge. Bad idea. It almost seems like they are
trying to hide something from the guest.

Aleece

"Odysseus" <x@x.x> wrote in message news:43FBe.176188$xm3.16168@attbi_s21...
>
> Looking at the deck plans is important.
>
> I am very fussy about my cabin location. I want it to be amidships
> and in a quite area. Without the deck plans, I could end up
> below the disco.
>
>>
>>
>>I received a fax on the new Brochures from RCCL, and they will not have
>>deck plans in them, I want to know what others thoughts on this is. I
>>think it is not a smart thing to do, its like having a can of chicken
>>soup and not having all the ingredients. BUT maybe I am thinking this
>>from a travel agents viewpoint. Do consumers such as yourselves, really
>>like the deck plans included? would you rather see them online? Do you
>>not care if they are in a brochure or not? Will this make you think the
>>brochure is not effective? I would like to see feedback from agents and
>>Consumers on what you think of this new policy?
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Susie
>>
>

>It almost seems like they are trying to hide something from the guest.

Not really. If one were a cynic (and there may be one or two around
somewhere), one might suggest that leaving out the deck plans is a way to
encourage the prospective cruiser to visit the Royal Caribbean website.
The cynic might also muse that the prospect's thought process might follow
the logic path of "gosh, there is EXACTLY the stateroom I want, it's
available RIGHT NOW, who knows what might happen between 2:00 a.m. and 8:00
a.m. when my TA opens. I'd better go ahead and book it now" or, "what the
heck, I'm already here, I might as well book it now".

That's what a cynic might think. Others might think it's a way to save
money. For whatever reason, RCCL announced this week that they will produce
a mini-broxhure with the deck plans.

Charlie

"cmugrad88" <cmugrad88m> wrote in message
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> Are you serious that there will be no deck plans in the brouchure? That
> sounds terrible to me. I use that to plan where my room is by checking
> what is nearby and above and below the cabin. Why would they leave that
> out? I think that people could be very upset if they chose a cabin that
> was under the theater or by the kitchen when they were the ones who needed
> extra quiet around the times that those areas might be busy. We don't all
> rely on the TA to help with the cabin decision and I, personally, don't
> want to be left without that kind of knowledge. Bad idea. It almost seems
> like they are trying to hide something from the guest.
>
> Aleece
>
> "Odysseus" <x@x.x> wrote in message
> news:43FBe.176188$xm3.16168@attbi_s21...
>>
>> Looking at the deck plans is important.
>>
>> I am very fussy about my cabin location. I want it to be amidships
>> and in a quite area. Without the deck plans, I could end up
>> below the disco.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I received a fax on the new Brochures from RCCL, and they will not have
>>>deck plans in them, I want to know what others thoughts on this is. I
>>>think it is not a smart thing to do, its like having a can of chicken
>>>soup and not having all the ingredients. BUT maybe I am thinking this
>>>from a travel agents viewpoint. Do consumers such as yourselves, really
>>>like the deck plans included? would you rather see them online? Do you
>>>not care if they are in a brochure or not? Will this make you think the
>>>brochure is not effective? I would like to see feedback from agents and
>>>Consumers on what you think of this new policy?
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Susie
>>>
>>
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