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Old 20th March 2005, 11:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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George Leppla wrote:

something he should be ashamed of ...

 
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Old 20th March 2005, 11:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Why in the world should he be ashamed of this post? It is very interesting
to see how they are trying to compare even though I disagree with their
figures and the way they look at it. It sure is a lot more interesting than
reading projected financial reports or other dry mundane backroom
information that one poster puts out as a press release. <G> Also, note the
lack of advertising by George.
Jim


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> George Leppla wrote:
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> something he should be ashamed of ...
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Old 20th March 2005, 11:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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number6 wrote <George Leppla wrote >

Something he should be ashamed of

Why?

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Old 20th March 2005, 12:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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"number6" <snumber6@> wrote in message
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> George Leppla wrote:
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> something he should be ashamed of ...


Why? I don't see anything that he should be ashamed of..it has to do with
cruising as opposed to all-inclusives.

--Jean.


 
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Old 20th March 2005, 12:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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In article <v0i%d.1485$yq2.1444@newssvr12.news.> , Jean
O'Boyle <j.oboyle@removefudged.> wrote:

> Why? I don't see anything that he should be ashamed of..it has to do with
> cruising as opposed to all-inclusives.


Perhaps Number 6 was responding tongue in cheek........

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Old 20th March 2005, 12:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"Charles" <fort@his.com.remove.invalid> wrote in message
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> Perhaps Number 6 was responding tongue in cheek........


He needs a smiley face then! ;-)

--Jean


 
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Old 20th March 2005, 12:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think a lot of what one's preference winds up being has to do with what
one did "first".

I had been to a few AI resorts before I went on a cruise. I was SHOCKED to
find out how much excursions cost because they had always been included!
Drinks didn't bother me, I just didn't partake. I don't recall dining
necessarily being much of an issue, although the last place I went did have
buffet service. That wasn't the "problem" for me though. What was (and what
is why I haven't been to an AI since) is that there was assigned seating,
and I was expected to dine at what was intended to be a table for two,
alone. That is NOT a vacation to me! So.... I've been cruising ever since.

It's been several years (and many cruises) since that trip... and I'm
thinking that I'm "cruised out" for now. Not sure if I'm "vacationed out"
too... but I will look into an AI next time I'm considering it.

Marsha

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> In Jan. we went to an all-inclusive for a week. I would not have gone
> except we went to attend the wedding of the son of a very close friend.
>
> It is hard to make a real cost comparison, this will vary by the type of
> room/cabin you choose, the amount you drink and the excursions you go on.
>
> We stayed at the Iberostar Tucan which is in the Mayan Riviera, near
> Cancun. For a 7 night stay we were guarented 2 dinners in the "reservation
> only restaurants", other then those 2 meals all meals were buffet style.
> The buffet and some of the resevation only restaurants were open air
> restaurants, so if it was hot, windy, cool etc you felt it all. On a
> cruise ship you have dining rooms that are climate controlled and you get
> waited on every night. For breakfast and lunch you can choose a buffet or
> a dininng room with full service, but it is your choice.
>
> Drinks included was very, very nice at the all-inclusive, one of the few
> things I liked about it. Not having to worry about how much was spent of
> the cruise card was very nice.
>
> They had some form of entertainment each evening, but it was very lame, no
> where near the level of the worst entertainment on a cruise ship. We
> didn't go many evenings because it was so bad and of course we were busy
> with our friends and their family.
>
> There also weren't any lounges where you could go and listen to music, one
> of our favorite things to do in the even on a ship.
>
> Excursions are something your are going to pay for traveling either way.
> Of course if you want to lay by the pool or on the beach you don't pay
> anything. There were some water sports thing available at no cost at the
> all-inclusive. There were also spa treatments available and you had to pay
> for them.
>
> Another service issue was that your room only got cleaned up once a day,
> not twice like on a cruise ship. I don't know if it was only us, but you
> never knew what time your room would be cleaned. On the day of the wedding
> we went back to our room about 2pm, to shower and get dressed for the
> wedding. Our room hadn't been made up yet and I had to go and find the
> maid to get clean towels.
>
> Another issue at the all-inclusive was that food wasn't as available as it
> is on a cruise ship. There were two mornings we needed to have breakfast
> very early and it just wasn't available. Room service didn't start untill
> 11AM and the buffet didn't open untill 7AM. Most of the time this wouldn't
> matter to me, except for the morning we had an early tour and the morning
> we had to leave for the airport.
>
> We had a very good time because we were with long time friends and their
> family. I don't think Kevin and I would do an all-inclusive again, unless
> we have another wedding or family gathering to attend. I do have to say
> that the wedding was beautifully done and the setting was gorgous.
>
> sue



 
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Old 20th March 2005, 12:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
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In article <Xhi%d.1489$yq2.400@newssvr12.news.>, Jean
O'Boyle <j.oboyle@removefudged.> wrote:

> He needs a smiley face then! ;-)


I agree. That is why I say "perhaps". I am not sure. But I think it
was, that is the only way it makes sense.

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Old 20th March 2005, 12:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"Sue and Kevin Mullen" <kjmullen@> wrote in message
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> We stayed at the Iberostar Tucan which is in the Mayan Riviera, near
> Cancun. For a 7 night stay we were guarented 2 dinners in the
> "reservation only restaurants", other then those 2 meals all meals
> were buffet style. The buffet and some of the resevation only
> restaurants were open air restaurants, so if it was hot, windy, cool
> etc you felt it all. On a cruise ship you have dining rooms that are
> climate controlled and you get waited on every night. For breakfast
> and lunch you can choose a buffet or a dininng room with full service,
> but it is your choice.


Interesting what people consider pluses. One of the things I don't like
about cruises is that most meals are served indoors, and the climate control
isn't to my liking (too cold). I much prefer eating in the fresh air. I
always wondered why cruise ships offer so few outdoor dining options, as
they often cruise in areas where the weather is wonderful. It's probably
because their prime customers are like Sue and Kevin, and they prefer the
indoor dining. Got to give the cruise lines points for catering to their
clientele.


 
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Old 20th March 2005, 01:26 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Marsha L wrote:

> I think a lot of what one's preference winds up being has to do with what
> one did "first".


I don't think it is so much what you did first, it is more a matter of
what you like to do on a vacation. If this all-inclusive had been the
first trip for us and we hadn't been with friends, I would of been
very bored.

> I had been to a few AI resorts before I went on a cruise. I was SHOCKED to
> find out how much excursions cost because they had always been included!


I guess it depends on the AI and what type of excursions you take.
Where we were there were a lot of water sports included, but no
excursions. We took a tour to Chichen Itza, but we had to pay for that.

> What was (and what
> is why I haven't been to an AI since) is that there was assigned seating,
> and I was expected to dine at what was intended to be a table for two,
> alone. That is NOT a vacation to me! So.... I've been cruising ever since.


Where we were you were able to sit where ever you wanted, there was no
assigned seats. Just proves how different one AI is from another.

sue
 
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