The Facts About Going To Cuba

Thus spake Chrissy Cruiser <doublebreasted@mail.com> :

>
>
>>>That will work. Getting there is not so much the issue. Neither is getting
>>>back. The risk/reward is the issue.
>
>On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:50:10 GMT, Dillon Pyron wrote:
>
>> There was recently a guy in Miami who was fined $10,000 for bringing
>> two boxes of Cuban cigars back from a trip. I don't know details, but
>> I'll bet it was a cruise to CZM where some huskter told him how easy
>> it was to smuggle them in.
>
>These types of things are the warning shots that need to be read loud and
>clear. If you get $10,000 fine for a couple of boxes of stogies, imagine if
>they think you are a national security issue.

Typically a sharp scolding and an admonission to "don't let me catch
you doing that again".

--
dillon

"When the French are against it, you know we can't
be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman

"Stephan in Burlington" <slaengerer@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:tj9v21peuatun3bst67oamh7pv5gspl6v3@...
> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:31:10 GMT, while the Captain of the mv Perfecto
> was guiding her to her next port, "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada>
> wrote:
>
> >> No, you cannot. But don't discount Honduran cigars, there are some
> >> amazing smokes available there.
> >
> >Thanks for that. Now can you make some recommendations? I'm looking for
>
> I've really enjoyed Hurricanos, available in a fairly large range of
> sizes (although my size preference is the Robusto). They are very
> well-made, and actually reasonably-priced.

Thanks for that Stephan.

Dillon Pyron <dmpyronINVALID@austin.> wrote:

>I can name an agency (actually, I can't) that has no limitations on
>who it can spy on or where. They have the capability to listen to any
>cell phone conversation in the world. And do so regularly.

Cell phones, being as they work through the same network as any
other phones, are nothing special. Any phone/fax/data connection
can be listened to, and processed.
--
Ken Tough

Surfer E2468 wrote:
> Anyone that does not like america,has the option of going elsewhere,and
> good riddence to them,That is what america is all about,if you don't
> like it MOVE
>


Improvement is made through honest self-analysis, not jingoism and
patriotic mantras and chest-beating. I think the poster's one-sided
America and American-bashing speaks for itself. I'm more objective about
America. It's a country. I'll consider criticism and investigate if it
is valid. People that criticize need not move, if they are constructive
and balanced, it is at least thought-provoking.

I certainly don't desire an America where everyone agrees with the gov't
and think those with criticisms should relocate to another country.
What's the point of freedom, then?

Ben S.

Skip Elliott Bowman wrote:
> "Chrissy Cruiser" <doublebreasted@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:17bt68fbse7op.1f8ar0en7dtor.dlg@40tude.net...
>
>
>>Take or leave my advice as you wish but this is no time for Cuban
>>visitation by Americans. You have been duly warned.
>
>
> And you have demonstrated your deep concern for others with your
> sensitivity, empathy, and class for months. I'm attaching the appropriate
> weight to your advice.
>
>

You would do better to consider advice based on facts and logic rather
than your feelings about the messenger. It is clearly illegal to visit
Cuba without permission, do you think otherwise? Would you want to
announce on a global forum that you have done/will do so?
Didn't think so.

ß wrote:

> Who the hell would want to be an American?

Most Americans. Just like most Germans want to be German, most Italians
want to be Italian, most Swedes want...

Heck, we might want to visit Cuba, but we don't have any desperate need
to risk our lives trying to escape to the island on a fricken homemade raft.

> I certainly do not.

Good, social security is already under strain.

We've heard it all before. You hate us, but you love what we can offer.
And we get to hear it all through the goodness of your Microsoft OE.

So what brings you here, university?

> Americans have the highest per capita rate of obesity in the entire world.

.... and Mexico, the UK, and Australia are very close behind.

Look at sugars added to foods, hydrogenated fats, a global food
processing industry with a lot of $nfluence, & ignorant consumers who
buy this stuff and have lost any sense of portion size.

garciyalater@m wrote:

> Hey B,
> dont you or didnt you own a "Khaki 2002 Liberty Renegade in Khaki"?
> Looks like someone drives an AMERICAN car........lol.....and a sissy
> little american car at that.....at least buy a real Jeep!!!
>
> Chuck(who may google your name again and find some other american
> influences you have)
>
LOL, you have too much time on your hands!

Ken Tough wrote:
>
> It most certainly will. And for the divers out there, I can vouch
> for the immense mountains of virgin coral off Cuba's south coast,
> which will be utterly destroyed like Cancun's when the fall comes.
>


Most nondivers just don't get it. Black coral harvested for trinkets,
and people still buy it like it fell off a truck. They don't want to
know how it really got on the shelves. Of course, it will be the piers
and developments that will suffocate the reefs. I hope they at the very
least designate it a national marine sanctuary to lessen the impact
somewhat.

Surfer E2468 wrote:

> Anyone that does not like america,has the option of going elsewhere,and
> good riddence to them,That is what america is all about,if you don't
> like it MOVE
>

Anyone that doesn't like it has the freedom to say so. That is what it
is all about.

Benjamin Smith wrote:

> I certainly don't desire an America where everyone agrees with the gov't
> and think those with criticisms should relocate to another country.
> What's the point of freedom, then?

Bingo.