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Old 25th February 2005, 05:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If you could pick 1 to be saved, which would you pick?

SS Norway
SS United States

--Tom <--- probably would pick SS United States


 
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Old 25th February 2005, 06:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Tom K" <tkanitra@> wrote in message
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> If you could pick 1 to be saved, which would you pick?
>
> SS Norway
> SS United States
>

Clearly the United States is a more significant ship- fastest Trans-Atlantic
crossing ever.
In the 60's I was on a Navy ship in the North Atlantic when radar reported a
surface contact overtaking us at a relative speed of 30 knots. We were
doing 10 knots. In a few minutes the United States went by. She was making
at least 40 knots.


 
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Old 26th February 2005, 04:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Norway. SSUS - too stark.

Mark

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> If you could pick 1 to be saved, which would you pick?
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> SS Norway
> SS United States
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> --Tom <--- probably would pick SS United States
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Old 26th February 2005, 11:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Kind of leaning toward the SSUS. From a historical point of view, I
think the SSUS has been less tampered with. Didn't the Norway get
stretched at one point? And/or have a new penthouse deck added to the
superstructure (It seems like the "lines" of the ship are much different
from the old photos I have of the France.)

Are there ary original rooms, fixtures, or lounges still aboard that
date from the "France" era?

HB

Mark (SF) wrote:

> Norway. SSUS - too stark.
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> Mark
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> "Tom K" <tkanitra@> wrote in message
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>>If you could pick 1 to be saved, which would you pick?
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>>SS Norway
>>SS United States
>>
>>--Tom <--- probably would pick SS United States
>>

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Old 26th February 2005, 02:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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In article <a44Ud.39836$s16.24591@trndny02>, William Coleman
<wgc19136@> wrote:

> I think that talk was a bunch of BS. My feeling is they bought that ship
> since it was an American built ship so that no other cruiseline could rehab
> her and give NCL competition in Hawaii. If I was a betting man I'd bet that
> ship will never sail again, unfortunately. :-(


I think you are right about it being BS. There doesn't seem to have
been anything said by NCL since.

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Old 26th February 2005, 02:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"William Coleman" <wgc19136@> wrote:

>I think that talk was a bunch of BS. My feeling is they bought that ship
>since it was an American built ship so that no other cruiseline could rehab
>her and give NCL competition in Hawaii. If I was a betting man I'd bet that
>ship will never sail again, unfortunately. :-(


I wonder, myself, what they will do with that hull, but I'm with you.
I don't believe she'll ever sail again in any shape or form.

Karen




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Old 26th February 2005, 04:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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When I was in the Navy and stationed in Norfolk in the early 80's, the
United States was moored a little ways down from the Naval Station D&S
(destroyer and submarine) piers. I could see the SSUS every morning
from the deck of my ship.

I recall they had an auction or sale of some sort. I think this was
when I was still stationed at Norfolk but it may have been later. They
sold off much of the "stuff" from the SSUS. It was on the local TV
news, showing them selling china and tableware and other items. They
cleaned out a lot of stuff.

 
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Old 26th February 2005, 06:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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"Rum Runner" <djbeers@> wrote:

>I recall they had an auction or sale of some sort. I think this was
>when I was still stationed at Norfolk but it may have been later. They
>sold off much of the "stuff" from the SSUS. It was on the local TV
>news, showing them selling china and tableware and other items. They
>cleaned out a lot of stuff.


They did indeed have a giant auction of her stuff. In fact, much of
that is still floating around in one collection or another. Some of
the towels and china which hadn't even been on the ship yet, but had
been in storage, was sold at auction, too.

Karen

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Old 26th February 2005, 08:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Karen Segboer wrote:
> <edit> it's completely bereft of anything resembling the ship
> it once was. The power pack is still in place, as are the funnels,
> but when the ship had its asbestos removed, it was completely gutted.


Well, I don't know then. In the case of both ships, it's kind of a
"Theseus' Ship" proposition.

There are probably not enough vintage ship buffs worldwide to keep
either ship afloat (as you mentioned a few posts down.)

Howard

 
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"Karen S" <karens@.nopotatoesplease.cupcaked.com> wrote in message
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> They did indeed have a giant auction of her stuff. In fact, much of
> that is still floating around in one collection or another. Some of
> the towels and china which hadn't even been on the ship yet, but had
> been in storage, was sold at auction, too.
>

There is a restaurant in Nags Head, NC (on the Outer Banks) called Windmill
Point. It has a SS United States Lounge with what I have heard their radio
ad claim to be the largest collection of SSUS artifacts (largest of what I
can't remember).


 
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