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Old 14th February 2004, 11:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been wondering about this for some time. We all know that there are "Sky
Marshals" and that they may or may not be on my next flight.

I have seen uniformed federal agents (with dogs) while the ship was in port.
But saw them leave prior to the ship shoving off.

Does anyone know if there is any "Sea Marshals"? If so, are they living in the
crew's quarters or "undercover" with the rest of the pax?
"Anything that doesn't kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20
 
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Old 14th February 2004, 11:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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>Subject: Sea Security

They are there. You just don't see them usually. I've seen uniformed CG on
the bridge at sailaway also. They left the ship with the pilot.

Babette
 
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Old 14th February 2004, 11:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Check in your closets, or under your bed!
"JLP20" <jlp20@nocrap> wrote in message
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> I have been wondering about this for some time. We all know that there are

"Sky
> Marshals" and that they may or may not be on my next flight.
>
> I have seen uniformed federal agents (with dogs) while the ship was in

port.
> But saw them leave prior to the ship shoving off.
>
> Does anyone know if there is any "Sea Marshals"? If so, are they living in

the
> crew's quarters or "undercover" with the rest of the pax?
> "Anything that doesn't kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20



 
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Old 15th February 2004, 12:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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On Princess thay had guys from the Nepalese Army on board for security. In
the world of the top end military like the Navy Seals and Green Berets, the
Nepalese Army guys are supposed to be the best of the best.

--Tom



"JLP20" <jlp20@nocrap> wrote in message
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> I have been wondering about this for some time. We all know that there are

"Sky
> Marshals" and that they may or may not be on my next flight.
>
> I have seen uniformed federal agents (with dogs) while the ship was in

port.
> But saw them leave prior to the ship shoving off.
>
> Does anyone know if there is any "Sea Marshals"? If so, are they living in

the
> crew's quarters or "undercover" with the rest of the pax?
> "Anything that doesn't kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20



 
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Old 15th February 2004, 12:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The cruise lines employ both uniformed and plain-clothes security. In
addition, they have surveillance cameras of many public and restricted
areas.

Tom Smith

"JLP20" <jlp20@nocrap> wrote in message
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> I have been wondering about this for some time. We all know that there are

"Sky
> Marshals" and that they may or may not be on my next flight.
>
> I have seen uniformed federal agents (with dogs) while the ship was in

port.
> But saw them leave prior to the ship shoving off.
>
> Does anyone know if there is any "Sea Marshals"? If so, are they living in

the
> crew's quarters or "undercover" with the rest of the pax?
> "Anything that doesn't kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20



 
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Old 15th February 2004, 05:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:47:21 GMT, Brian K <brianxt1951@>
wrote:

>down to check the ship's hull. I asked her "What if terrorists in a
>high speed racing boat full of explosives try to ram the ship?" She
>said "You've seen how the ship's thrusters can make it turn on a dime,
>they can outmaneuver them." Then she paused for a moment and said,


That's completely preposterous.

Further, what about the times the ship is not under command
-- anchored, or made fast to the shore? It's certainly
not going to be outmaneuvering anything then.


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- Lee
 
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Old 16th February 2004, 01:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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jlp20@nocrap (JLP20) wrote in message news:<20040214234441.19922.00002180@mb-m17.>...

> Does anyone know if there is any "Sea Marshals"? If so, are they living in the
> crew's quarters or "undercover" with the rest of the pax?


I'm sure there are undercover officers on ships. Carnival was the
first cruise I took that I actually saw uniformed officers walking
around out on deck - not that I wasn't happy they were there...just
kind of took away from the festive atmosphere a bit. That was March of
2002, so only 6 months after the WTC attack.

I don't think I connected the visible guards with terrorist actiivity,
come to think of it. Since it was my first Carnival cruise, and having
never seen guards on the otherlines, I just assumed that it was the
norm and necessary on this line, to keep the legendary partiers in
check :).

Lee
 
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Old 18th February 2004, 12:18 AM   #8 (permalink)
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"Brian K" <brianxt1951@> wrote in message
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> In addition to that my TA informed me that the Coat Guard sends divers
> down to check the ship's hull.


Brian,
When we were in Ft. Lauderdale to take our Radiance cruise last January, we
struck up a conversation in the bar with some security people there
especially for the QM2 sailing. They told us there were divers, security in
uniform and undercover. They said that there were many agencies working
together in ways that people could never even imagine.

As we were waiting for the Radiance to depart~~we were late leaving~I saw
the Coast Guard, Broward County Law Enforcement and local law enforcement
circling our ship. They kept all yachts, sailboats and small craft at a
certain distance from the ship~If they even looked as if they might intrude
into that zone, the sirens would go on, lights flashed and sometimes there
was a use of bullhorns as they sped to the offending craft. It was
interesting watching this from our balcony and made me feel very safe,
especially when we knew there were other precautions being taken that we
could not even see!

--Jean


 
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Old 18th February 2004, 02:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 05:10:04 GMT, "Tom & Linda"
<tkanitra@> wrote:

>On Princess thay had guys from the Nepalese Army on board for security. In
>the world of the top end military like the Navy Seals and Green Berets, the
>Nepalese Army guys are supposed to be the best of the best.

They are called Gurkha's. Not really sure if they are from the Royal
Nepalese Army. I think most of them come from the British Army.

Not all cruise lines employ them, but RCCI does.
 
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Old 18th February 2004, 02:33 AM   #10 (permalink)
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When the British Empire came apart after WWII, the two Gurkha
formations were split -- one to the British Army (prior to this, there
were no Gurkhas in the British Army; they were all in the Indian Army)
and one stayed in the Indian Army. I am sure there are some in the
Nepalese army now and don't know if the Indian Army maintains its
Gurkha force.

My father who fought along side a Gurkha formation in Italy was in
complete awe of their abilities.

Paul


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> On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 05:10:04 GMT, "Tom & Linda"
> <tkanitra@> wrote:
>
> >On Princess thay had guys from the Nepalese Army on board for

security. In
> >the world of the top end military like the Navy Seals and Green

Berets, the
> >Nepalese Army guys are supposed to be the best of the best.

> They are called Gurkha's. Not really sure if they are from the Royal
> Nepalese Army. I think most of them come from the British Army.
>
> Not all cruise lines employ them, but RCCI does.



 
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