Silversea

You ARE wrong. Just because the booze is included ( I realize you are paying
for it up front) doesn't make for a bunch of drunks ! There are many that
don't drink at all and just enjoy the ambience of this fantastic cruise
line. Just hope it doesn't get swallowed up by Carnival. I sound like a PR
person which I am NOT !! Have been on it 470 days and at 500 get a free 14
day cruise. If you're a smoker ( I realize hardly anybody IS any more)
cigarettes are free, also. Not a lot of smokers, either. I DO sound like a
PR person !!
"paulfriedman@" <p.paulfriedman@> wrote in message
news:JbpNb.69525$I06.319693@attbi_s01...
> I have avoided Silversea because of their free booze program. Obviously, I
> could be completely wrong, but I really do not like being around drunks
and
> the free booze might encourage too much imbibing by some. Well-to-do
drunks
> are no more fun than poor drunks. <grin> Everything else about the line
> seems perfect for us - lately we have been sailing on Crystal..
>
> Open seating or lack thereof doesn't make much difference to us.
>
> Paul
>
>
> "Lee" <leelbm@> wrote in message
> news:doGdnWadjIfjKJjdRVn-hA@...
> > Doesn't ANYBODY go on Silversea ?? Would rather save up money and sail
> them
> > than go on one of those humungous ships with thousands of people !! Open
> > seating in dining room (any time), tips iincluded, all open bars with
> > set-ups in your suite---replenished when needed. 300 to 400 passengers.
> > Great, friendly crew. You're missing something.
> >
> > Lee
> >
>
>

Lee:

Well, I am glad that I am wrong -- it gives us a nice option for future
cruises.

So, tell me, do you like Silversea at all? <grin>

Paul


"Lee" <leelbm@> wrote in message
news:bNidnWK72tRosZvdRVn_iw@...
> You ARE wrong. Just because the booze is included ( I realize you are
paying
> for it up front) doesn't make for a bunch of drunks ! There are many that
> don't drink at all and just enjoy the ambience of this fantastic cruise
> line. Just hope it doesn't get swallowed up by Carnival. I sound like a PR
> person which I am NOT !! Have been on it 470 days and at 500 get a free 14
> day cruise. If you're a smoker ( I realize hardly anybody IS any more)
> cigarettes are free, also. Not a lot of smokers, either. I DO sound like a
> PR person !!
> "paulfriedman@" <p.paulfriedman@> wrote in message
> news:JbpNb.69525$I06.319693@attbi_s01...
> > I have avoided Silversea because of their free booze program. Obviously,
I
> > could be completely wrong, but I really do not like being around drunks
> and
> > the free booze might encourage too much imbibing by some. Well-to-do
> drunks
> > are no more fun than poor drunks. <grin> Everything else about the line
> > seems perfect for us - lately we have been sailing on Crystal..
> >
> > Open seating or lack thereof doesn't make much difference to us.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > "Lee" <leelbm@> wrote in message
> > news:doGdnWadjIfjKJjdRVn-hA@...
> > > Doesn't ANYBODY go on Silversea ?? Would rather save up money and sail
> > them
> > > than go on one of those humungous ships with thousands of people !!
Open
> > > seating in dining room (any time), tips iincluded, all open bars with
> > > set-ups in your suite---replenished when needed. 300 to 400
passengers.
> > > Great, friendly crew. You're missing something.
> > >
> > > Lee
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

paulfriedman@ wrote:

> Lee:
>
> Well, I am glad that I am wrong -- it gives us a nice option for future
> cruises.
>
> So, tell me, do you like Silversea at all? <grin>
>
> Paul
>
>
> "Lee" <leelbm@> wrote in message
> news:bNidnWK72tRosZvdRVn_iw@...
>
>>You ARE wrong. Just because the booze is included ( I realize you are
>
> paying
>
>>for it up front) doesn't make for a bunch of drunks ! There are many that
>>don't drink at all and just enjoy the ambience of this fantastic cruise
>>line. Just hope it doesn't get swallowed up by Carnival. I sound like a PR
>>person which I am NOT !! Have been on it 470 days and at 500 get a free 14
>>day cruise. If you're a smoker ( I realize hardly anybody IS any more)
>>cigarettes are free, also. Not a lot of smokers, either. I DO sound like a
>>PR person !!
>>"paulfriedman@" <p.paulfriedman@> wrote in message
>>news:JbpNb.69525$I06.319693@attbi_s01...
>>
>>>I have avoided Silversea because of their free booze program. Obviously,
>
> I
>
>>>could be completely wrong, but I really do not like being around drunks
>>
>>and
>>
>>>the free booze might encourage too much imbibing by some. Well-to-do
>>
>>drunks
>>
>>>are no more fun than poor drunks. <grin> Everything else about the line
>>>seems perfect for us - lately we have been sailing on Crystal..
>>>
>>>Open seating or lack thereof doesn't make much difference to us.
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lee" <leelbm@> wrote in message
>>>news:doGdnWadjIfjKJjdRVn-hA@...
>>>
>>>>Doesn't ANYBODY go on Silversea ?? Would rather save up money and sail
>>>
>>>them
>>>
>>>>than go on one of those humungous ships with thousands of people !!
>
> Open
>
>>>>seating in dining room (any time), tips iincluded, all open bars with
>>>>set-ups in your suite---replenished when needed. 300 to 400
>
> passengers.
>
>>>>Great, friendly crew. You're missing something.
>>>>
>>>>Lee
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Let's see....we are talking about $11,000 to $12,000 plus airfare and
incidentals for a seven day cruise. So all in all, about $15,000 for 2
people for a one week cruise on Silversea does not sound far off the
mark, Well, no offense but we are talking big bucks here...... mucho big
bucks..I won't even consider the cost involved in bringing a child or 2
along. If Silversea was the only cruise option I can see trying to do
doing it on a once-in-a-lifetime basis. But it isnt. I dont stay at
Four Seasons hotels either...though I would love the cherrywood
bathrooms and the velvet robes.

I dont know or wish to know the socio-economic breakdown of this NG, but
Silversea is not, for me, a viable alternative to such lines as Hal,
Celebrity, Princess and Norwegian) -- unless I win the lottery.

Jay <azik@rogers.com> wrote:

>I dont know or wish to know the socio-economic breakdown of this NG, but
>Silversea is not, for me, a viable alternative to such lines as Hal,
>Celebrity, Princess and Norwegian) -- unless I win the lottery.

I think that's the point. Most of the posters here are Americans.
They discuss middle-of-the-road cruise lines and not much more. Even
the QM2, a new Cunarder, is a bit of an enigma to them.

I'd like to see people stretch a bit, try something new, not just the
same old Alaska/Caribbean/Canal trips on the Big Three over and over
again. Life is about possibilities, not doing the same things the
same ways. I'd venture to guess that there ARE some folks here who
would love to know more about Silverseas, Seabourn and the like, just
to dream big if nothing else.

Hell, if you can't dream, you're dead.

CupCaked wrote:

> Jay <azik@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I dont know or wish to know the socio-economic breakdown of this NG, but
>>Silversea is not, for me, a viable alternative to such lines as Hal,
>>Celebrity, Princess and Norwegian) -- unless I win the lottery.
>
>
> I think that's the point. Most of the posters here are Americans.
> They discuss middle-of-the-road cruise lines and not much more. Even
> the QM2, a new Cunarder, is a bit of an enigma to them.
>
> I'd like to see people stretch a bit, try something new, not just the
> same old Alaska/Caribbean/Canal trips on the Big Three over and over
> again. Life is about possibilities, not doing the same things the
> same ways. I'd venture to guess that there ARE some folks here who
> would love to know more about Silverseas, Seabourn and the like, just
> to dream big if nothing else.
>
> Hell, if you can't dream, you're dead.
>
>
What does being American have to do with it? (I am Canadian) And how do
u define middle of the road? With respect, any way you look at it,
people taking vacations costing in the order of $3000 to $5000 or so for
2 people for a week, are not usually among the lower percentiles of
taxpayers -- regardless of which country they live in. I dont mean to
start a thread on this, but let's be honest...cruises are great value
vacations but not, in my judgement, "cheap" (especially during the times
when kids are out of school). Thankfully, and only relatively recently,
the expansion of cruise lines and ships has allowed people formerly
financially shut out of cruise ships to take advantage of them. There
are indeed premium cruise lines, as there are premium hotels and
resorts. But these, as always, cater to the (how shall I put it)
"better-off" amongst us.

Jay <azik@rogers.com> wrote:


>What does being American have to do with it? (I am Canadian)

Nothing at all, but that's my point. We don't have very many
Europeans, South Americans, Central Americans or Asians posting here.
I have no control over who posts, I'm just making a comment on who's
actually discussing cruises in this ng.

>u define middle of the road?

I just defined "middle of the road" cruises in my post above. The
"middle of the road" cruise lines are fairly well spelled out over and
over again in this newsgroup.

>With respect, any way you look at it,
>people taking vacations costing in the order of $3000 to $5000 or so for
>2 people for a week, are not usually among the lower percentiles of
>taxpayers -- regardless of which country they live in. I dont mean to
>start a thread on this, but let's be honest...cruises are great value
>vacations but not, in my judgement, "cheap" (especially during the times
>when kids are out of school). Thankfully, and only relatively recently,
>the expansion of cruise lines and ships has allowed people formerly
>financially shut out of cruise ships to take advantage of them. There
>are indeed premium cruise lines, as there are premium hotels and
>resorts. But these, as always, cater to the (how shall I put it)
>"better-off" amongst us.

Sure, cruises are a great value, much better than they used to be. Or
are they? As someone who has plenty of cruises under his belt pointed
out just a few days ago, if you add up all the incidentals, taxes,
port charges and add-ons the cruise lines now subject us to, cruising
costs just as much as it did when it was considered more exclusive and
when EVERYTHING was truly included.

As for the only cruises out there being cheap value-oriented trips, we
all know that's not true. There are many folks on this newsgroup
over the years who have moved up from one of those middle of the road
cruise lines to more expensive luxury lines, just because they now had
the travel experience, more disposable income and the desire to do
more, see more, experience more. As people go from their 20s and
Carnival, they *may* (notice I said *may*) progress to RCI, Princess,
Celebrity, and yes, even HAL in their 30s, 40s, 50s and beyond. I'd
hate to think we're all so static that we stay stuck in our opinions
about what's enough for us on a vacation. I know I always want more.

Jay <azik@rogers.com> wrote in
news:6tGNb.168120$AAe1.31682@news01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com:



>>>
>>
>>
> Let's see....we are talking about $11,000 to $12,000 plus airfare and
> incidentals for a seven day cruise. So all in all, about $15,000 for 2
> people for a one week cruise on Silversea does not sound far off the
> mark, Well, no offense but we are talking big bucks here...... mucho
> big bucks..I won't even consider the cost involved in bringing a child
> or 2 along. If Silversea was the only cruise option I can see trying
> to do doing it on a once-in-a-lifetime basis. But it isnt. I dont
> stay at Four Seasons hotels either...though I would love the
> cherrywood bathrooms and the velvet robes.
>
> I dont know or wish to know the socio-economic breakdown of this NG,
> but Silversea is not, for me, a viable alternative to such lines as
> Hal, Celebrity, Princess and Norwegian) -- unless I win the lottery.
>
But there are people who for reasons beyond my comprehension book suits on
Carvival and RCI that cost more and deliver less.

CupCaked wrote:
> Jay <azik@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I dont know or wish to know the socio-economic breakdown of this NG, but
>>Silversea is not, for me, a viable alternative to such lines as Hal,
>>Celebrity, Princess and Norwegian) -- unless I win the lottery.
>
>
> I think that's the point. Most of the posters here are Americans.
> They discuss middle-of-the-road cruise lines and not much more. Even
> the QM2, a new Cunarder, is a bit of an enigma to them.
>
> I'd like to see people stretch a bit, try something new, not just the
> same old Alaska/Caribbean/Canal trips on the Big Three over and over
> again. Life is about possibilities, not doing the same things the
> same ways. I'd venture to guess that there ARE some folks here who
> would love to know more about Silverseas, Seabourn and the like, just
> to dream big if nothing else.
>
> Hell, if you can't dream, you're dead.
>
>

I agree with you, Karen. The only thing that I'm a bit wary of is that
Silverseas is a status type of product. I'd like to see people branch
out into really liking what they like and going for that instead of the
status, unless they really are going for the quality of the status product.

Ben S. (not sure I'm a Silverseas type of cruiser)

Benjamin Smith <benjs@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>I agree with you, Karen. The only thing that I'm a bit wary of is that
>Silverseas is a status type of product. I'd like to see people branch
>out into really liking what they like and going for that instead of the
>status, unless they really are going for the quality of the status product.
>
>Ben S. (not sure I'm a Silverseas type of cruiser)

Ben, I wouldn't sail Silverseas because of it's status or cost. I
want to know what the cruise product is like. I want to upgrade my
own personal cruising experience and history. I want to be able to
compare and contrast. Hell, I'd take a Silverseas cruise for the same
reasons I'd take a Carnival cruise (eventually), to be able to know
the differences, subtle and not-so-subtle.

"paulfriedman@" <p.paulfriedman@> wrote:

>Not sure if it is a valid point. My tastes are my tastes .. that does not
>make them better or worse than anyone else's. I've paid serious money top
>scalp tickets to La Strata and have given away World Series tickets. That's
>just me. (My wife would give BOTH away -- gladly -- for a dog or cat show.

True. Taste is taste, and (as they say) there's no accounting for
it. I understand (and personally agree with) your example of opera
tickets as opposed to baseball tickets, but I've just purchased our
tickets to Westminister at Madison Square Garden for February, too, so
I also understand your wife's point of view. Even between my DH and
myself, there are things he wants that I have no interest in at all
(quality wrist watches, vintage motorcycles.)

I think we're talking "experiences" here, though. The quality and the
difference between the cruise experience you would get on a Carnival
cruise as opposed to a Silverseas cruise is something I want to try.
I may be completely satisfied after only one cruise on Silverseas; in
fact, I think I very well would be.