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Old 25th June 2008, 06:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Woman Turned Away by Carnival for Being Too Pregnant

Interesting article in USA Today about a woman being turned away by Carnival for being "too pregnant."

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruis...=51837470.blog

Good or bad idea?
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Old 26th June 2008, 09:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Woman Turned Away by Carnival for Being Too Pregnant

In Carnival's own brochure, they state... "Pregnancy: Please be
advised that guests who are 24 weeks or more into their pregnancy at
the time of the voyage will not be permitted to sail because of the
risk of premature labor."

That brochure post-dates the woman's contract. The point of her
complaint and the media attention was that Carnival's 24-week policy
was implemented AFTER she booked. The more liberal policy in effect at
the time she booked would have allowed her to sail. Only after media
attention did Carnival offer her credit toward a future cruise.
(Unstated is why she didn't learn of the January change before her
attempted embarkation. Carnival claims the new policy was well-
publicized.)

Why she didn't learn is that the policy wasn't so widely made known as
some would claim. the brochure certainly precedes her booking, but
brochure informaton should never be used for much of anything as the
small print says somewhere, subject to change.
Why didn't she have more concern for the fetus than her own fun on a
cruise? Why didn't she have concern about the other passengers whose
cruise itinerary would possibly be disrupted if she had an early
delivery? Why didn't she have concern about insurance or personal
resources that would have been needlessly squandered helping, saving or
transporting her is she went into labor.

Nope- it's all about some person having the 'right' to do what she
wants, when she wants, without regard for anyone, any consequences or
anything else.

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Old 26th June 2008, 06:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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clint wrote:
> When we were younger on a criuise, some one asked my cow when sge was due, I
> said shes not, just fat!haha(weare now both seniors)
> "Surfer E2468" <pocomount@**********> wrote in message
> news:15230-4863FE3F-739@storefull-3351.bay.**********...
>> When i was young i would never have thought to cruise if pregnant,also
>> would never take a small baby or a child that was not toilet trained on
>> a cruise.


I learned LONG ago to never ask a woman if she was pregnant/expecting.
If she was, it wasn't a problem, but if she wasn't, I was in instant hot
water.

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Old 6th July 2008, 11:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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[Default] Thus spake Brian K <brian1951BLOG@**************>:

>On 6/30/2008 11:38 PM Dillon Pyron plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger
>and said:
>> [Default] Thus spake Rosalie B. <gmbeasley@***************>:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Anyway, as I said - I know they are doing this to CTA, but I think
>>> changing the parameters on this particular pax was wrong. She wasn't
>>> any more of a risk at 24 months than she would have been at 26.
>>>

>>
>> There are some VERY PRONOUNCED risks with being pregnant at 24 months.
>> Not the least of which is all the doctors trying to horn themselves in
>> on the JAMA article.
>>
>> (snip )

>Not for elephants. Maybe she's genetically crossed with an elephant. If
>she remembers everything from since she was born, she may be an
>elephant. After all, an elephant NEVER forgets! :-)


And she would, of course, be the patient in the room that no one
wanted to talk about.
 
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