New Passport Rules!

In article <rm9ou3p55qtoh2ig4u7pshf37l04hj94mt@>, Ray
<ray@> wrote:

> Traveling By Sea

> How will the final WHTI requirements affect passengers going on
> cruises?
> U.S. citizens on closed-loop cruises (cruises that begin and end at
> the same port in the U.S.) will be able to enter or depart the country
> with proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate and
> government-issued photo ID. A U.S. citizen under the age of 16 will be
> able to present either an original or a copy of his or her birth
> certificate, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad issued by DOS, or a
> Certificate of Naturalization issued by U.S. Citizenship and
> Immigration Services.

Uh. As I read this. For US citizens.

If you take a round trip cruise from a US port you won't need a
passport!!!

If you are under 16 you won't need a passport.

--
Charles

Charles <fort@his.com.remove.invalid> wrote:

>In article <rm9ou3p55qtoh2ig4u7pshf37l04hj94mt@>, Ray
><ray@> wrote:
>
>> Traveling By Sea
>
>> How will the final WHTI requirements affect passengers going on
>> cruises?
>> U.S. citizens on closed-loop cruises (cruises that begin and end at
>> the same port in the U.S.) will be able to enter or depart the country
>> with proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate and
>> government-issued photo ID. A U.S. citizen under the age of 16 will be
>> able to present either an original or a copy of his or her birth
>> certificate, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad issued by DOS, or a
>> Certificate of Naturalization issued by U.S. Citizenship and
>> Immigration Services.
>
>Uh. As I read this. For US citizens.
>
>If you take a round trip cruise from a US port you won't need a
>passport!!!

Assuming that any foreign ports decide to let you in.

In article <eqtou35e5o1vajdflp5ej6mv4i1gmlsgdg@>,
Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org> wrote:

> Charles <fort@his.com.remove.invalid> wrote:
>
> >In article <rm9ou3p55qtoh2ig4u7pshf37l04hj94mt@>, Ray
> ><ray@> wrote:
> >
> >> Traveling By Sea
> >
> >> How will the final WHTI requirements affect passengers going on
> >> cruises?
> >> U.S. citizens on closed-loop cruises (cruises that begin and end at
> >> the same port in the U.S.) will be able to enter or depart the country
> >> with proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate and
> >> government-issued photo ID. A U.S. citizen under the age of 16 will be
> >> able to present either an original or a copy of his or her birth
> >> certificate, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad issued by DOS, or a
> >> Certificate of Naturalization issued by U.S. Citizenship and
> >> Immigration Services.
> >
> >Uh. As I read this. For US citizens.
> >
> >If you take a round trip cruise from a US port you won't need a
> >passport!!!
>
> Assuming that any foreign ports decide to let you in.

I have yet to use my passport for entry into foreign ports, at
least in Caribbean.

On Mar 28, 7:58 am, Kurt Ullman <kurtull...m> wrote:
> In article <eqtou35e5o1vajdflp5ej6mv4i1gmls...@>,
>  Jack Hamilton <j...@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Charles <f...@his.com.remove.invalid> wrote:
>
> > >In article <rm9ou3p55qtoh2ig4u7pshf37l04hj9...@>, Ray
> > ><r...@> wrote:
>
> > >> Traveling By Sea
>
> > >> How will the final WHTI requirements affect passengers going on
> > >> cruises?
> > >> U.S. citizens on closed-loop cruises (cruises that begin and end at
> > >> the same port in the U.S.) will be able to enter or depart the country
> > >> with proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate and
> > >> government-issued photo ID. A U.S. citizen under the age of 16 will be
> > >> able to present either an original or a copy of his or her birth
> > >> certificate, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad issued by DOS, or a
> > >> Certificate of Naturalization issued by U.S. Citizenship and
> > >> Immigration Services.
>
> > >Uh. As I read this. For US citizens.
>
> > >If you take a round trip cruise from a US port you won't need a
> > >passport!!!
>
> > Assuming that any foreign ports decide to let you in.
>
>      I have yet to use my passport for entry into foreign ports, at
> least in Caribbean

The EU and Turkey also ... room card all that was required ... told
also to carry some form of photo ID (not necessarily your passport)
while ashore ...
Your room card references your passport ... that seems to be enough
for all countries I've visited ...

Ray wrote:

> Will travelers from U.S. territories need to present a passport to
> enter the United States?
> No. U.S. territories are considered a part of the United States. U.S.
> citizens returning directly from a U.S. territory are not considered
> to have left the country and do not need to present a passport. U.S.
> territories include the following: Guam, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin
> Islands, American Samoa, Swains Island and the Commonwealth of the
> Northern Mariana Islands.

Ray, thanks for posting this. My nephew lives in St. Thomas and will be
getting married there summer '09. He thought there would be no passport
required for family flying down for the wedding, but he wasn't positive
and this now answers our question.

sue