Fireworks

[Sue Mullen]

Neal Eckhardt wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:31:54 -0700, Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:38:04 -0700, gadgetworld@********** (Gadget
>> World) wrote:
>>
>>> Remember the days when the 4th of July was celebrated with a great
>>> fireworks show off the aft of the ship.
>>>
>>> I cannot understand why this does not happen, when seaside towns do
>>> their fireworks shows on the water off-shore.
>>>
>>> I can especially see a very special fireworks show on ships with a large
>>> seating area at the aft, like Princess and soon the Oasis.
>>>
>>> I think that every cruise should be celebrated with fireworks for a
>>> memorable experience.
>> We had fireworks when the Independence sailed from the Aloha Pier,
>> many years ago.
>>
>> The Pride of Hawaii did not.
>>
>> It's a great way to set sail. But the ships I've been on lately have
>> departed in the afternoon, when fireworks wouldn't be so effective.
>
> Disney does it on their two ships every sailing.

We did Disney in 2003 and they did not do fireworks then. If they do it
now, it must be something new.

sue

[Sue Mullen]

frijoli wrote:
> Sue Mullen wrote:
>>
>>
>> Neal Eckhardt wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:31:54 -0700, Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:38:04 -0700, gadgetworld@********** (Gadget
>>>> World) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Remember the days when the 4th of July was celebrated with a great
>>>>> fireworks show off the aft of the ship.
>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot understand why this does not happen, when seaside towns do
>>>>> their fireworks shows on the water off-shore.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can especially see a very special fireworks show on ships with a
>>>>> large
>>>>> seating area at the aft, like Princess and soon the Oasis.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that every cruise should be celebrated with fireworks for a
>>>>> memorable experience.
>>>> We had fireworks when the Independence sailed from the Aloha Pier,
>>>> many years ago.
>>>>
>>>> The Pride of Hawaii did not.
>>>>
>>>> It's a great way to set sail. But the ships I've been on lately have
>>>> departed in the afternoon, when fireworks wouldn't be so effective.
>>>
>>> Disney does it on their two ships every sailing.
>>
>> We did Disney in 2003 and they did not do fireworks then. If they do
>> it now, it must be something new.
>>
>> sue
>
> Sue, I remember looking forward to that. I had been told they did it,
> but our trip did not.
>
> I actually forgot about it while we were sailing, and remembered when we
> got back.

Do you remember if they did it on the cruise where I meet you?

sue - leaving for St Thomas in an hour or so!

[Sue Mullen]

frijoli wrote:
> Sue Mullen wrote:
>>
>>
>> frijoli wrote:
>>> Sue Mullen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neal Eckhardt wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:31:54 -0700, Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:38:04 -0700, gadgetworld@********** (Gadget
>>>>>> World) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remember the days when the 4th of July was celebrated with a great
>>>>>>> fireworks show off the aft of the ship.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cannot understand why this does not happen, when seaside towns do
>>>>>>> their fireworks shows on the water off-shore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can especially see a very special fireworks show on ships with
>>>>>>> a large
>>>>>>> seating area at the aft, like Princess and soon the Oasis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that every cruise should be celebrated with fireworks for a
>>>>>>> memorable experience.
>>>>>> We had fireworks when the Independence sailed from the Aloha Pier,
>>>>>> many years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Pride of Hawaii did not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a great way to set sail. But the ships I've been on lately have
>>>>>> departed in the afternoon, when fireworks wouldn't be so effective.
>>>>>
>>>>> Disney does it on their two ships every sailing.
>>>>
>>>> We did Disney in 2003 and they did not do fireworks then. If they do
>>>> it now, it must be something new.
>>>>
>>>> sue
>>>
>>> Sue, I remember looking forward to that. I had been told they did it,
>>> but our trip did not.
>>>
>>> I actually forgot about it while we were sailing, and remembered when
>>> we got back.
>>
>> Do you remember if they did it on the cruise where I meet you?
>>
>> sue - leaving for St Thomas in an hour or so!
>
> They did not.

Thanks, at least my memory isn't all that bad.lol

sue

[Dillon Pyron]

[Default] Thus spake "Tom K" <tkanitra@**************>:

>
>"Gadget World" <gadgetworld@**********> wrote in message
>news:25883-4A4ACC0C-561@baytvnwsxa001.msntv.********...
>> Remember the days when the 4th of July was celebrated with a great
>> fireworks show off the aft of the ship.
>>
>> I cannot understand why this does not happen, when seaside towns do
>> their fireworks shows on the water off-shore.
>>
>> I can especially see a very special fireworks show on ships with a large
>> seating area at the aft, like Princess and soon the Oasis.
>>
>> I think that every cruise should be celebrated with fireworks for a
>> memorable experience.
>>
>>
>
>Fireworks are intrinsically dangerous. They're explosives. They blow up.
>They cause fires. If you were an insurance company, would you allow it on
>ships that you insure? If you were a passenger on a ship hundreds of miles
>away from any help... would you want dangerous fireworks around?
>
>That reminds me about the time a passenger on a bridge tour asked Captain
>Ioannis on Constellation why no cruise ships had nuclear reactors. He said
>it's because they're VERY dangerous.

I know. And look at the US Navy. They've had what, no failures?

>Three Mile Island had a partial core
>melt down and now thousands of people in New Jersey have thyroid cancer

Umm, the incidence of thyroid cancer above average is about 2. Where
did you get your statistics from? I have mine from my radiopath text.

>(that's the way the wind blew the radiation... what did you think would
>happen when you built a nuclear plant near a populated area and had a melt
>down?).
>
>It's simply better to avoid dangerous things. Even if they're 99.9% safe...
>that 0.1% of the time something bad happens... it's REAL bad.
>
>--Tom
>
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out
to be a cylon."
-Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS"

[Tom K]

"frijoli" <cf@dud.net> wrote in message
news:h2ij17$dao$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Dillon Pyron wrote:
>> [Default] Thus spake "Tom K" <tkanitra@**************>:
>>
>>> "Gadget World" <gadgetworld@**********> wrote in message
>>> news:25883-4A4ACC0C-561@baytvnwsxa001.msntv.********...
>>>> Remember the days when the 4th of July was celebrated with a great
>>>> fireworks show off the aft of the ship.
>>>>
>>>> I cannot understand why this does not happen, when seaside towns do
>>>> their fireworks shows on the water off-shore.
>>>>
>>>> I can especially see a very special fireworks show on ships with a
>>>> large
>>>> seating area at the aft, like Princess and soon the Oasis.
>>>>
>>>> I think that every cruise should be celebrated with fireworks for a
>>>> memorable experience.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Fireworks are intrinsically dangerous. They're explosives. They blow
>>> up. They cause fires. If you were an insurance company, would you allow
>>> it on ships that you insure? If you were a passenger on a ship hundreds
>>> of miles away from any help... would you want dangerous fireworks
>>> around?
>>>
>>> That reminds me about the time a passenger on a bridge tour asked
>>> Captain Ioannis on Constellation why no cruise ships had nuclear
>>> reactors. He said it's because they're VERY dangerous.
>>
>> I know. And look at the US Navy. They've had what, no failures?
>>
>>> Three Mile Island had a partial core melt down and now thousands of
>>> people in New Jersey have thyroid cancer
>>
>> Umm, the incidence of thyroid cancer above average is about 2. Where
>> did you get your statistics from? I have mine from my radiopath text.
>>
>>> (that's the way the wind blew the radiation... what did you think would
>>> happen when you built a nuclear plant near a populated area and had a
>>> melt down?).
>>>
>>> It's simply better to avoid dangerous things. Even if they're 99.9%
>>> safe... that 0.1% of the time something bad happens... it's REAL bad.
>>>
>>> --Tom
> I wonder if Tom has one of those dangerous things called a vehicle
> carrying HIGHLY flammable and explosive gasoline. I'll never own one.
> Whew.
>

Actually gasoline isn't that flammable at compared to other liquids (Organic
Chem Class), which is why it's rather safe as a fuel. I think the better
term is that it doesn't ignite that easily, or spontaneously. Ever try
starting a snow blower in the winter?

Want highly flammable? ... try Hydrogen Gas... try Ether. Even alcohols.
They ignite much more easily.

--Tom

[Dillon Pyron]

[Default] Thus spake AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM>:

>On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:58:07 -0400, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman**********m> wrote:
>>In article <slrnh4pokr.vv7.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>,
>> AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
>
>>> >Want highly flammable? ... try Hydrogen Gas... try Ether. Even alcohols.
>>> >They ignite much more easily.
>>>
>>> Gas has to have the right fuel mixture. Toss a lit cigarette into a pool
>>> of gasoline and the liquid gasoline will snuff it out.
>
>> That is pretty much true of anything. It is never the stuff itself
>>that ignites, but the fumes.
>
>Yes, but the point is that the fumes from an open pool of gasoline are
>fairly harmless. The mixture is too weak.
>Put the gasoline in a closed container and the fumes will be too rich.
>
>To get a nice explosion, the fuel has to be atomized over a large area and
>that is excedingly rare. Except in hollywood pictures where any vehicle
>that stops by any means other than its brakes must explode.

I've never seen a cigarette light off gasoline. But a match will
light it up.

Pour liquid oxygen on a grill loaded with charcoal and a lit
cigarette. It's not the O2 that burns, it just facilitates the
charcoal. And the cheap aluminium.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out
to be a cylon."
-Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS"

[Dillon Pyron]

[Default] Thus spake Brian K <brian1951BLOG@**************>:

>On 7/4/2009 3:15 PM Dillon Pyron while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
>> [Default] Thus spake AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM>:
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:58:07 -0400, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman**********m> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <slrnh4pokr.vv7.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>,
>>>> AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Want highly flammable? ... try Hydrogen Gas... try Ether. Even alcohols.
>>>>>> They ignite much more easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Gas has to have the right fuel mixture. Toss a lit cigarette into a pool
>>>>> of gasoline and the liquid gasoline will snuff it out.
>>>>>
>>>> That is pretty much true of anything. It is never the stuff itself
>>>> that ignites, but the fumes.
>>>>
>>> Yes, but the point is that the fumes from an open pool of gasoline are
>>> fairly harmless. The mixture is too weak.
>>> Put the gasoline in a closed container and the fumes will be too rich.
>>>
>>> To get a nice explosion, the fuel has to be atomized over a large area and
>>> that is excedingly rare. Except in hollywood pictures where any vehicle
>>> that stops by any means other than its brakes must explode.
>>>
>>
>> I've never seen a cigarette light off gasoline. But a match will
>> light it up.
>>
>> Pour liquid oxygen on a grill loaded with charcoal and a lit
>> cigarette. It's not the O2 that burns, it just facilitates the
>> charcoal. And the cheap aluminium.
>>
>Dillon, have you been watching Mythbusters again?

Actually, it was Time Warp. But no, I've been doing it off and on for
about 10 years. And before that we used to take O2 tanks that were
below about 30% and hook them up to a air line and blow them into the
camp fire. You can melt a beer bottle in less than three minutes or
light an aluminum can up.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out
to be a cylon."
-Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS"