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Old 19th June 2006, 12:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Phil Paintin wrote:
> If you don't like the idea of hot water + plastic then you probably
> shouldn't like the idea of hot water + aluminium either -- it gives a
> bitter taste and might (allegedly) contribute to Alzheimer's.
> Stainless steel moka pots are available, but cost.


The urban legend concerning the role of aluminum in dementia dates to
the days when patients in renal failure were given very large amounts
of aluminum hydroxide. Because aluminum cannot be removed by dialysis,
the level of aluminum in the body would build up resulting, in a few
cases, in what was termed "aluminum dementia." Alas, it was
irreversible.

Dialysis patients no longer receive mega doses of aluminum-contining
antacids and the problem has disappeared.

As to ingesting enough aluminum through the use of aluminum food/drink
utensils, well, as a forensic pathologist friend of mine observed,
"Maybe....if you ground the aluminum pot to powder and consumed a
tablespoon or so a day."

So...no worries about aluminum cookware.

Will
"The human capacity to worry about weird stuff is nearly boundless."

 
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Old 19th June 2006, 12:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Omniryx@ wrote:

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> Phil Paintin wrote:
>> If you don't like the idea of hot water + plastic then you probably
>> shouldn't like the idea of hot water + aluminium either -- it gives a
>> bitter taste and might (allegedly) contribute to Alzheimer's.
>> Stainless steel moka pots are available, but cost.

>
> The urban legend concerning the role of aluminum in dementia dates to
> the days when patients in renal failure were given very large amounts
> of aluminum hydroxide. Because aluminum cannot be removed by dialysis,
> the level of aluminum in the body would build up resulting, in a few
> cases, in what was termed "aluminum dementia." Alas, it was
> irreversible.
>
> Dialysis patients no longer receive mega doses of aluminum-contining
> antacids and the problem has disappeared.
>
> As to ingesting enough aluminum through the use of aluminum food/drink
> utensils, well, as a forensic pathologist friend of mine observed,
> "Maybe....if you ground the aluminum pot to powder and consumed a
> tablespoon or so a day."
>
> So...no worries about aluminum cookware.


Wasn't there a study that showed a link between aluminum and Alzheimers,
which study could not be successfully replicated?

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As any of the researchers here will confirm, one can find a study
somewhere linking anything to anything. One has to judge based on the
quality of the research and the preponderance of the evidence. There
is no body of credible evidence that links the ingestion of aluminum
from the use of cookware to the development of any dementing process,
Alzheimer's or otherwise.

Will



J. Clarke wrote:
> Omniryx@ wrote:
>
> >
> > Phil Paintin wrote:
> >> If you don't like the idea of hot water + plastic then you probably
> >> shouldn't like the idea of hot water + aluminium either -- it gives a
> >> bitter taste and might (allegedly) contribute to Alzheimer's.
> >> Stainless steel moka pots are available, but cost.

> >
> > The urban legend concerning the role of aluminum in dementia dates to
> > the days when patients in renal failure were given very large amounts
> > of aluminum hydroxide. Because aluminum cannot be removed by dialysis,
> > the level of aluminum in the body would build up resulting, in a few
> > cases, in what was termed "aluminum dementia." Alas, it was
> > irreversible.
> >
> > Dialysis patients no longer receive mega doses of aluminum-contining
> > antacids and the problem has disappeared.
> >
> > As to ingesting enough aluminum through the use of aluminum food/drink
> > utensils, well, as a forensic pathologist friend of mine observed,
> > "Maybe....if you ground the aluminum pot to powder and consumed a
> > tablespoon or so a day."
> >
> > So...no worries about aluminum cookware.

>
> Wasn't there a study that showed a link between aluminum and Alzheimers,
> which study could not be successfully replicated?
>
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)


 
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Omniryx@ wrote:

> As any of the researchers here will confirm, one can find a study
> somewhere linking anything to anything. One has to judge based on the
> quality of the research and the preponderance of the evidence. There
> is no body of credible evidence that links the ingestion of aluminum
> from the use of cookware to the development of any dementing process,
> Alzheimer's or otherwise.


Which is what I said. Or did you miss the part about "could not be
replicated"?

The trouble is that it was widely publicized.

> Will
>
>
>
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> Omniryx@ wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Phil Paintin wrote:
>> >> If you don't like the idea of hot water + plastic then you probably
>> >> shouldn't like the idea of hot water + aluminium either -- it gives a
>> >> bitter taste and might (allegedly) contribute to Alzheimer's.
>> >> Stainless steel moka pots are available, but cost.
>> >
>> > The urban legend concerning the role of aluminum in dementia dates to
>> > the days when patients in renal failure were given very large amounts
>> > of aluminum hydroxide. Because aluminum cannot be removed by dialysis,
>> > the level of aluminum in the body would build up resulting, in a few
>> > cases, in what was termed "aluminum dementia." Alas, it was
>> > irreversible.
>> >
>> > Dialysis patients no longer receive mega doses of aluminum-contining
>> > antacids and the problem has disappeared.
>> >
>> > As to ingesting enough aluminum through the use of aluminum food/drink
>> > utensils, well, as a forensic pathologist friend of mine observed,
>> > "Maybe....if you ground the aluminum pot to powder and consumed a
>> > tablespoon or so a day."
>> >
>> > So...no worries about aluminum cookware.

>>
>> Wasn't there a study that showed a link between aluminum and Alzheimers,
>> which study could not be successfully replicated?
>>
>> --
>> --John
>> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)


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